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Old August 29th, 2006, 12:20 PM   #1
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the first non-Roman Roman emperor


Who was the first non-Roman Roman emperor?
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Old August 29th, 2006, 03:42 PM   #2

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Do you mean not born in Rome? Caligula was born at Antium and Claudius was born in Lugdunum in Transalpine Gaul. But they were Roman citizens, Trajan was born in Spain, but he too was a Roman citizen. Do you mean like Odovacar, the man who took power from the Romans?
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Old August 29th, 2006, 04:27 PM   #3
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Maybe an Etruscan King or such? Dont know their names and such.
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Old August 29th, 2006, 04:29 PM   #4

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Well he said Emperor, not King, Rome had a period when they were under Kings, a Republic, Emperor, then Pope, then Kings, then dictator, and their modern Republican Democracy.
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Old August 31st, 2006, 01:40 PM   #5

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I'd have to go along with Trajan, too.
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Old August 31st, 2006, 03:47 PM   #6
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celticbard and boudicass is right


Trajan was the first non Roman emperor. there were Etruscan kings for a brief period before the republic, but after the legendary Romulus and Latium. But they were kings not emperors. Augustus was the first emperor ergo the first non Roman emperor had to have come after him. even though Caligula and Claudius were born outside of Rome, their parents were not and they were considered Roman regardless of where the were born. also, they were direct descendents of Augustus so its kinda hard to say they weren't roman. Trajan yes was not only a Roman citizen, but a senator and a general. But by Trajan's time every person living within the empire was a citizen and therefore entitled to all privileges that come witrh it. But Trajan was not descendent from any pure Roman blood and rose through the ranks of the Roman army to become the first non-Roman emperor
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Not really through the ranks, he didn't start as a trooper or centurion, he did what all young Patricians and wealthy Plebians were expected to do, follow the Curia Honorum. Started out as a Legionary Legate and advanced as he aged. Trajan was exceptional in his ability to conquer exotic foreign lands, ripe with gold. His impact on Rome is great. His 100 foot tall column is a testiment to his glory, as is his market, and forum, all found in the center of the city.
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Old September 1st, 2006, 06:48 PM   #8

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I think he was thinking of Odovacar as the first non Roman Roman Emperor.. He was a barbarian..
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Old September 1st, 2006, 08:59 PM   #9
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he said non-Roman emperor not the first barbaric emperor. if he was thinking of Odovacar then he should have been more specific.
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I could be wrong but that was my assumption.
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