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Old June 29th, 2017, 01:07 AM   #1
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The greatest Dutch artists


I have a passion for Dutch painting of the 17th century: Holland's Golden Age. As my fellow forum member Willempie remarked to me, there are so many Dutch painters of that era...Most of them were highly talented, some of them were pure geniuses...And that testifies to the splendour of the age.

When we think of 17th century Dutch painting, the names that come to most people's minds are Rembrandt, Hals, Vermeer...Others may mention Pieter De Hooch and the landscape painters...But how many really know the works, or even the existence, of masters such as Carel Fabritius, Gabriel Metsu, Peter Lely (who worked mostly in England but was a superbly accomplished portraitist who remained faithful to Dutch artistic principles), Gerard Terborch (whose delightful interior scenes rival those of Vermeer), and the peerless Godfried Schalcken, last heir of Caravaggio and the chiaroscuro style of painting?

The above mentioned painters are only a few of the myriads of extraordinary 17th century Dutch masters. Everyone who loves Dutch painting of that century has his or her favourite artists...Who are your favourites, and why?
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Old June 29th, 2017, 02:44 AM   #2

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Hello Reitia,
here is a paining by David Bailly I love:
Self-Portrait with Vanitas Symbols by BAILLY, David

I came to know this painting from a blog post by Michael J. Hurst:
pre-Gébelin Tarot History: Homo Bulla Vanitas

Since Michael's death one year ago, I find myself coming back to the panting. The artist really captured much of the mystery of life and death.

I must say I haven't tried exploring more of Bailly's work. I can't tell if the rest of his work has the same depth.
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Old June 29th, 2017, 02:49 AM   #3

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I have a passion for Dutch painting of the 17th century: Holland's Golden Age. …
Just a point: it isn't "Holland's Golden Age" ! It's "Dutch painting" (if You want), or "Flemish Masters".

(pi***ed of Belgian talking )
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Hello Reitia,
here is a paining by David Bailly I love:
Self-Portrait with Vanitas Symbols by BAILLY, David

I came to know this painting from a blog post by Michael J. Hurst:
pre-Gébelin Tarot History: Homo Bulla Vanitas

Since Michael's death one year ago, I find myself coming back to the panting. The artist really captured much of the mystery of life and death.

I must say I haven't tried exploring more of Bailly's work. I can't tell if the rest of his work has the same depth.
Thanks for sending this, Marco. To be honest, I had never heard of David Bailly before. His surname suggests that his family was of French origin. Could you send a link to a biography?
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Just a point: it isn't "Holland's Golden Age" ! It's "Dutch painting" (if You want), or "Flemish Masters".

(pi***ed of Belgian talking )
Excuse me, but either you haven't understood my post or I haven't understood yours. I indicated only that the 17th century has been called Holland's Golden Age, and so indeed it has. I didn't even use the word Belgian, and anyway in this thread I'm not discussing the Flemish masters who came from Flanders and deserve a thread of their own.
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Excuse me, but either you haven't understood my post or I haven't understood yours. I indicated only that the 17th century has been called Holland's Golden Age, and so indeed it has. I didn't even use the word Belgian, and anyway in this thread I'm not discussing the Flemish masters who came from Flanders and deserve a thread of their own.
There's no such thing like "Holland's Golden Age" ! There's only Flemish painting and masters ! !

All that 'Holland's Golden Age " is nothing than Willempie's and Prince d'Orange 's invention !!


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Thanks for sending this, Marco. To be honest, I had never heard of David Bailly before. His surname suggests that his family was of French origin. Could you send a link to a biography?
Hi Reitia, as I wrote, I haven't done any research about Bailly.
According to wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bailly
he was "the son of a Flemish immigrant".

Of course, the most striking feature of Bailly's self portrait is that the painter represented himself as an adolescent, with his "true" middle-age self-portrait appearing as the small painting in the hands of his young self. In my opinion, the whole painting is full of fascinating symbols.
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Hi Reitia, as I wrote, I haven't done any research about Bailly.
According to wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bailly
he was "the son of a Flemish immigrant".

Of course, the most striking feature of Bailly's self portrait is that the painter represented himself as an adolescent, with his "true" middle-age self-portrait appearing as the small painting in the hands of his young self. In my opinion, the whole painting is full of fascinating symbols.
Right! An expression of youth, maturity, and death. So even the skull would represent himself?
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All that 'Holland's Golden Age " is nothing than Willempie's and Prince d'Orange 's invention !!


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Old June 29th, 2017, 11:38 AM   #10

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Vermeer is my favorite, by far! His subjects, the detail and precision in his manner of painting, the way he opens a window into the world of 17th Century Holland. I wish I could crawl into many of his paintings and explore what he didn't put on the canvas!

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