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Old March 6th, 2018, 03:47 AM   #1

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Lovely traditional Ottoman Turkish music:share your favourites from around the world!


I would like to share this lovely traditional Ottoman Turkish music. I particularly like the song that starts at 8:53. Hope you enjoy!

Feel free to use this thread to share other lovely traditional music. I don't mind if it's Greek, Armenian, Arab, Persian, western European or anything else - all are welcome. Share your traditional musical favourites here!

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I've been playing Civilization 5 recently, and there are some wonderful pieces as background music for oriental civilizations.





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Thank you Solidaire for sharing these wonderful songs

I really liked the first one, it sounds a bit Sufi! But also a bit modern/epic feel to it. Very nice.

The second one style sounds a bit Andalusian. Talking of which, I thought you might enjoy this. It's an old Andalusian song:




There is also another nice song. The singer is Greek but I think the words are Iberian:



And a last one, Empirotechnes. I think the lyrics are in Greek, although I'm not sure!



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Thank you Solidaire for sharing these wonderful songs

I really liked the first one, it sounds a bit Sufi! But also a bit modern/epic feel to it. Very nice.

The second one style sounds a bit Andalusian. Talking of which, I thought you might enjoy this. It's an old Andalusian song:




There is also another nice song. The singer is Greek but I think the words are Iberian:



And a last one, Empirotechnes. I think the lyrics are in Greek, although I'm not sure!



What do you think?
Yes, the lyrics are Greek, it is a Greek group from northern Greece. From the songs you posted, I liked the second one the most. I think it's Sephardic Jewish from Thessaloniki, there was a large community there before the Holocaust, having migrated from middle age Spain.

And yes, it is the "Sufi sounding" one that I like the most too, from my post. It has a mystical quality to it, drawing you in. It has stuck in my ears for days now.

I like Ottoman classical music, it has a Byzantine sound to it (obviously having been influenced by Byzantine music), and therefore it has a familiar tone.
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Yes, the lyrics are Greek, it is a Greek group from northern Greece. From the songs you posted, I liked the second one the most. I think it's Sephardic Jewish from Thessaloniki, there was a large community there before the Holocaust, having migrated from middle age Spain.

And yes, it is the "Sufi sounding" one that I like the most too, from my post. It has a mystical quality to it, drawing you in. It has stuck in my ears for days now.

I like Ottoman classical music, it has a Byzantine sound to it (obviously having been influenced by Byzantine music), and therefore it has a familiar tone.
That's so interesting! I'd like to visit Thessaloniki one day. I have been to Athens and some of the islands like Rhodos and Naxos. I hear it has some Byzantine history which is very nice. Byzantines created great artistic images, but I don't know what their music sounded like.

I didn't know Ottoman music has Byzantine similarities - that's exciting! Do you have any Byzantine songs to share?

Also, I found this traditional Armenian song. This is maybe my favourite of all time

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That's so interesting! I'd like to visit Thessaloniki one day. I have been to Athens and some of the islands like Rhodos and Naxos. I hear it has some Byzantine history which is very nice. Byzantines created great artistic images, but I don't know what their music sounded like.

I didn't know Ottoman music has Byzantine similarities - that's exciting! Do you have any Byzantine songs to share?

Also, I found this traditional Armenian song. This is maybe my favourite of all time

A truly magnificent piece of music, thanks for sharing.

Regarding Thessaloniki, it was once a cultural hotspot (it still is, to a degree), a meeting point of various civilizations. It was the second most important Byzantine city, after Constantinople, hence the multitude of Byzantine churches, icons and relics. There are also Roman and Ottoman sites to visit, plus a vibrant modern cultural scene. It is an exciting city.

Music is an ocean. Everything is ultimately connected, since the human psyche and emotion is the creator and raison d'Ítre of it all. That's why I am open to all music, from all over the world, as long as it is genuinely inspired by the human soul and not a mechanical creation of the pop industry. You can hear the human soul behind the creations of Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Tchaikovsky and Mozart, you can hear it behind Byzantine psalms and hymns, behind Sufi music and Ottoman classical music. You can hear it behind folk music from all over the world, behind the Blues and the Rembetika, the Fados and gypsy music, behind jazz and rock. Latin music, African music, Arabian music, there's no end to the musical form the soul chooses to express itself, depending on circumstance. As you have probably understood, I just love music.

PS: it is difficult to choose specific Byzantine pieces, but for what's worth, here are two samples.




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I am a music composer and i love mystic transe music (Sufi music as well). There is African mystic music called GNAWA, itís a mix off Sufi tradition with African transe music. Hereís a link to youtube video featuring a Master named Hamid Kasri:
There is some of my own compositions in this style (and in other musical traditions) in musicscreen.org (world category)
Thanx for this great thread and thank you for sharing.
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Welcome, Belgoz. Thanks for sharing. Gnawa is something I have gladly discovered recently, I like this video. It's great to see such joy in the music. The way they sing made me feel enthusiasm too!

There is some cool Gnawa music found here, the song that plays towards the end, at around 27 minutes:


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Lovely traditional Ottoman Turkish music:share your favourites from around the world!


Thank you for the link i will check it this evening
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Yes, the lyrics are Greek, it is a Greek group from northern Greece. From the songs you posted, I liked the second one the most. I think it's Sephardic Jewish from Thessaloniki, there was a large community there before the Holocaust, having migrated from middle age Spain.

And yes, it is the "Sufi sounding" one that I like the most too, from my post. It has a mystical quality to it, drawing you in. It has stuck in my ears for days now.

I like Ottoman classical music, it has a Byzantine sound to it (obviously having been influenced by Byzantine music), and therefore it has a familiar tone.
I agree about the byzantine influence, but let's be honest, it sounds nothing like anything in modern Greece, especially the south, epirus and most of the islands

It only reminds me of cappadokian music, and part of West Asia Minor. Also, pontian is identical to Turkish black Sea music

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