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October 19th, 2012, 12:43 PM
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#1 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,364 | Led Zeppelin, plagiarists?
I submit to you these links as evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvLsutfI5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zThdTAWQFAQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5uMQDlKn8g
Knowing how much they stole, even the first basic part of Stairway To Heaven, really alters my view of the band. As a teenager I loved their work. Now I see that so much of it is not really their work at all.
I'd rather listen to Black Sabbath. Hell, even Kiss. At least Kiss wrote their own material and when they did a cover gave proper credit.
(Don't know why the link didn't appear in the thread)
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October 19th, 2012, 12:46 PM
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#2 | | Theomachos
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,666 |
Yeah, they were unquestionably plagiarists, and that's pretty sh***y of them. But, tbh, all music is derivative, and what they did with the source material is really good, so I'll still listen to them. I'd definitely rather listen to them than either of the other bands you mention.
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October 19th, 2012, 02:04 PM
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#3 | | Produce of Scotland
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Thistleland Posts: 2,922 |
Listening to Stairway to Heaven backwards is preferrable to anything Kiss ever did.
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October 19th, 2012, 02:11 PM
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#4 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2012 From: Florida Posts: 1,271 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Ranke  Listening to Stairway to Heaven backwards is preferrable to anything Kiss ever did. | KISS truly the most overrated rock band in history. Can't believe it took all this time to find that Led Zeppelin were bunch of frauds though.
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October 19th, 2012, 02:18 PM
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#5 | | Suspended indefinitely
Joined: Jun 2012 From: USA Posts: 4,015 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Ranke Listening to Stairway to Heaven backwards is preferrable to anything Kiss ever did. | I listen to a classic rock station. The only Kiss song they play is Rock and Roll All Night, which I loathe. I cannot think of a single Kiss song I like.
As for Led Zeppelin copying others, I wasn't aware of it and I will try to ignore it. I love that band, they are one of the all time greats. They started the whole metal rock scene I think.
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October 19th, 2012, 02:18 PM
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#6 | | Produce of Scotland
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Thistleland Posts: 2,922 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Aulus Plautius KISS truly the most overrated rock band in history. Can't believe it took all this time to find that Led Zeppellin were bunch of frauds though. | I agree with AP you about the band who dare not speak their name but in defence of Zep I have to agree with Clodius in that every great band do to an extent build on material that has gone before. The Eagle's great song Hotel California was partly plagiarisation on Jethro Tull's We used to Know who they had supported on a tour.
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October 19th, 2012, 02:21 PM
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#7 | | Produce of Scotland
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Thistleland Posts: 2,922 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil I listen to a classic rock station. The only Kiss song they play is Rock and Roll All Night, which I loathe. I cannot think of a single Kiss song I like.
As for Led Zeppelin copying others, I wasn't aware of it and I will try to ignore it. I love that band, they are one of the all time greats. They started the whole metal rock scene I think. | You will get no argument from me on that one Virgil. I think Robespierre was being deliberately provocative by mentioning them.  | | | |
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October 19th, 2012, 02:23 PM
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#8 | | Ex Cold War Warrior
Joined: Mar 2011 From: North East England Posts: 3,033 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Ranke I agree with AP you about the band who dare not speak their name but in defence of Zep I have to agree with Clodius in that every great band do to an extent build on material that has gone before. The Eagle's great song Hotel California was partly plagiarisation on Jethro Tull's We used to Know who they had supported on a tour. | Any modern Rock band is bound to repeat well worn riffs, its basically all been done before. | | | |
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October 19th, 2012, 02:28 PM
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#9 | | Produce of Scotland
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Thistleland Posts: 2,922 | Quote:
Originally Posted by SPERRO Any modern Rock band is bound to repeat well worn riffs, its basically all been done before. | Absolutely and as there is only a finite amount of riffs available to the musician it should come as no surprise that crossover happens and as you play the guitar yourself Sperro you would know.
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October 19th, 2012, 02:32 PM
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#10 | | Ex Cold War Warrior
Joined: Mar 2011 From: North East England Posts: 3,033 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Ranke Absolutely and as there is only a finite amount of riffs available to the musician it should come as no surprise that crossover happens and as you play the guitar yourself Sperro you would know. | Without going into great lengths on the foundation of Rock, its all based on rythem and blues and by its nature, revolves around basic principles (if ya na wat I meen )
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