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Old November 21st, 2012, 01:57 AM   #11

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This is a WW2 German battle flag (forgive me, but I don't know exactly what it is or when it was used):

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This is the Zeon flag:
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Old November 21st, 2012, 01:59 AM   #12

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I've often seen the toys for Gundam, but have never watched the cartoons for more than five minutes. There is a big market for the toys here in Hong Kong, and the old ones go for very high prices.

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Has anyone seen the giant Gundam in Japan?

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Jake10, yes, the market is huge but I would prefer to keep the focus of the thread away from the toys and the mobile suits themselves per se, but concentrate on the back story and the universe, and its roots and parallels in the real world, otherwise this thread will degenerate into a "look at these cool robots" thread (at which point, I will have to post pictures of my model collection).
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Jake10, yes, the market is huge but I would prefer to keep the focus of the thread away from the toys and the mobile suits themselves per se, but concentrate on the back story and the universe, and its roots and parallels in the real world, otherwise this thread will degenerate into a "look at these cool robots" thread (at which point, I will have to post pictures of my model collection).
Sorry, I'll be quiet and listen in class.
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Old November 21st, 2012, 02:26 AM   #15

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And of course, the most obvious one of all - the antagonist faction in ZZ Gundam is actually called the Axis (the name of the asteroid on which they are based).
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Old November 21st, 2012, 04:50 AM   #16

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The Gundam universe's equivalent of the nuclear bomb (although nuclear weapons also exist in the Gundam world) is the colony drop - crashing a 3 mile long colony into the Earth, causing an explosion of millions of megatons similar to that of an asteroid impact. Sydney in Australia, along with 16% of the Australian continent is destroyed when a colony falls on it.

But it's not the only wunderwaffe used by both sides. The Earth Federation develops an ultimate weapon called the Solar System array, an array of space mirrors that focus the Sun's rays into a massive blast. This is the real equivalent of the WW2 nuclear bomb, and is deployed only once at the end of the war in one of the final battles, as the Federation tries to force the Zeon to surrender once and for all by knocking out a large proportion of their fleet.

But in Gundam's universe, the Zeon manage to build themselves a prototype version of the same weapon, and strike back with it, inflicting serious damage to the Federation's own military, but not enough to overcome the Federation's advantage in numbers.
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Thanks for re-explaining an awesome anime which I was too young to understand the symbolism.
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Wow, the way its described it sounds like a Japanese rightwinger's fantasy. Meh.

I'll stick to Macross.
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could you keep telling us about it?
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Wow, the way its described it sounds like a Japanese rightwinger's fantasy. Meh.

I'll stick to Macross.
To the Germans, WWII fascism was a nightmare and a mistake. But to the Japanese, it was past glory that is to be reminisced. One example right off the top of my head is the Space Battleship Yamato.
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