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Jim Casy November 24th, 2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Raminus Polus (Post 1651742)
Thank you. Yes, post civil war time was a trial. Artists of that time were romantics, innovators and boundary-breakers. Rodchenko, Malevich, «futuristy» with Mayakovky and many others. I don't think that time was so unbearably horrific, or more correct: it was for those who shares new ideals. If I lived by then, I could never be agree with Maykovsky and Rodchenko as with «obsolete art» or with relation to «old world» or religion. However, what they did was highly talented type of art beyond politics.


Speaking of Russian avant garde of 1920s I should mention other artist of that epoch, Vassily Kandinsky (1866 –1944)


Painting was just his hobby till the age of 30, then it overgrew into a passion. He refused professorship of Roman Law in University of Tartu, then arrived in Munich where became to study Вauhaus art.


Works performed by Kandinsky are rather hard to classify correct. Formally, it is an «abstract art». But if it so, then with a solid part of cubism, constructivism, impressionism, expressionism and «visual art» . In a word, it is an "eclectic abstract art".


Kandinsky was also a great art theorist. In other avant garde streams, I can would compare what he did (may be involuntary) with Iannis Xenakis in music. Probably that's why any time I see Kandinsky’s paintings I hear music of Xenakis in my head.

I love Kandinsky. I have a print of Hommage to Grohmann behind me as I type this.

http://imagecache5.art.com/p/LRG/8/8...o-grohmann.jpg

antonina November 25th, 2013 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Raminus Polus (Post 1651742)
Yes, post civil war time was a trial. Artists of that time were romantics, innovators and boundary-breakers. Rodchenko, Malevich, «futuristy» with Mayakovky and many others. I don't think that time was so unbearably horrific

Well, it was. Rodchenko and Mayakovski were unfortunately serving evil - like Leni Riefenstahl. But lets not go into all that here.

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Originally Posted by Raminus Polus (Post 1651742)
Speaking of Russian avant garde of 1920s I should mention other artist of that epoch, Vassily Kandinsky (1866 –1944)

Another artist of global fame, hardly unknown but never too much of a good thing.:)

I'll throw in one more innovative Russian artist of the time - but far less of a household name. Actually, I can mention here without derailing the thread because history of art lists her as Polish avantgarde artist - though she might as well be considered Russian or Latvian German.

Katarzyna Kobro (1898 -1951)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...b/bf/Kobro.jpg

She married the Polish artist Władysław Strzemiński (good-looking young oficer she'd nursed in WW1) and moved to Poland with him, escaping from Bolshevik Russia. She was a sensitive, talented and unhappy woman - her husband treated her very badly, her avantgarde art was naturally rejected in Stalinist times and she died in abject poverty.

Today her suprematist sculptures are worth a mint. Very few survived because she destroyed most of them in a fit of despair. I don't like such dry conceptual art, but art historians regard Kobro very highly .

http://culture.pl/sites/default/file...10_4291781.jpg

http://facweb.cs.depaul.edu/sgrais/i...01925,1928.gif

Raminus Polus November 26th, 2013 09:20 AM

Thank you, antonina. Much to my shame, I know not too much about Polish suprematists.
Far more I know modern Polish artists. I was impressed wtih modern Polish surrealism. Zdzislaw Beksinski and Jacek Verka are ones of my favorite artists working in this genre.

Isleifson November 26th, 2013 09:44 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._pendaison.png


Jacques Callot from Lorraine

antonina November 26th, 2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Raminus Polus (Post 1653409)
Thank you, antonina. Much to my shame, I know not too much about Polish suprematists.
Far more I know modern Polish artists. I was impressed wtih modern Polish surrealism. Zdzislaw Beksinski and Jacek Verka are ones of my favorite artists working in this genre.

I've never head of Jacek Verka, but Beksiński is very well known. I'm not into surrealists(perhaps except Magritte), Beksinski, like Dali, is one among those I simply can't stand, so I didn't post him. But I'll send a few now if you like him. :)

You know what it's like - we've all got different tastes, eg.for me the greatest visual artist Russia ever produced was Chagall, but I'm sure not everyone would agree.

Zdzisław Beksiński (1929 - 2005)

http://wizjalokalna.files.wordpress..../beksinski.jpg

http://c300221.r21.cf1.rackcdn.com/z...46007166_b.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pcpJLjLwuj...sinski_061.jpg

ugh :sick:

Linschoten November 26th, 2013 11:53 AM

Chagall is my favourite Russian painter too; though I would be in two minds between him and Levitan.

antonina November 26th, 2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Isleifson (Post 1653428)

Straight after Beksiński your image of the hanged seemed almost cheerful ;)

I've never heard of him, quite amazing, he's one of a kind, even for the mannerism period.

I wonder what actually caused mannerism, why did things start getting weirder and weirder and then - boom, baroque (best of European art ).

Thank you very much for this link Isleifson.

Jacques Callot (1592-1635) Lorraine

http://www.haa.pitt.edu/callot/images/callot/home7.jpg

http://www.spamula.net/blog/i19/callot23-thumb.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Violinist.jpg


http://zouchmagazine.com/wp-content/...86a439fde6.jpg


http://zouchmagazine.com/wp-content/...4fbbe1e661.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4032/4...d2bb31410d.jpg

http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumb...a-Barriere.jpg

antonina November 26th, 2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Linschoten (Post 1653544)
Chagall is my favourite Russian painter too; though I would be in two minds between him and Levitan.

Nice to find another fan, lets hope Raminus posts some. Who's Levitan? :o (I'll go and check)

Fireatwill November 26th, 2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by antonina (Post 1653533)
You know what it's like - we've all got different tastes, eg.for me the greatest visual artist Russia ever produced was Chagall, but I'm sure not everyone would agree.

Zdzisław Beksiński (1929 - 2005)

http://wizjalokalna.files.wordpress..../beksinski.jpg

http://c300221.r21.cf1.rackcdn.com/z...46007166_b.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pcpJLjLwuj...sinski_061.jpg

ugh :sick:

For me great art is all about subtlety and nuance, these works are too cartoonish.

antonina November 26th, 2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireatwill (Post 1653559)
For me great art is all about subtlety and nuance, these works are too cartoonish.

I detest Beksiński myself, even though he's probably the best selling modern Polish artist nowadays. First of all, anyone delving in such stuff for a prolonged period of time (not to mention a lifetime) is looking for trouble. Secondly, the horror is boringly literal. Compare it with eg. Goya - there's a small painting called "The Maypole", nothing particular happening there, group of peasants at a fair under low hanging sky - but there's something so menacing about the innocent scene you can't get over it for months.


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