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Old June 26th, 2013, 08:44 PM   #41

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I'm surprised to see Cal Ripken on that list.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 08:53 PM   #42

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I'm surprised to see Cal Ripken on that list.
I kind of was as well, same with Morgan.
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I am also suprised to not see Joe DiMaggio on the list. Have to check his WAR.
DiMaggio's career totals, including WAR, fall short because he was in the army for three years and retired at 36.
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Per Baseball-Reference, Mays hit more homers at home than on the road, 335 to 325.
Yes, but he only hit 203 of his 660 home runs in Candlestick.
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This link has top 1000 WAR that includes pitchers.

Career Leaders &amp Records for Wins Above Replacement - Baseball-Reference.com

Top ten
1. Babe Ruth 183.8
2. Cy Young 168.4
3. Walter Johnson 165.6
4. Barry Bonds 162.5
5. Willie Mays 156.1
6. Ty Cobb 151.2
7. Hank Aaron 142.4
8. Roger Clemens 140.3
9. Tris Speaker 133.9
10. Honus Wagner 130.6

Top ten active
17. Alex Rodriguez 115.5
40. Albert Pujols 92.8
86. Derek Jeter 72.3
122. Adrian Beltre 66.8
123. Carlos Beltran 66.8
136. Roy Halladay 64.6
168. Todd Helton 60.9
187. Andy Pettite 58.8
190. Ichiro 58.5
208. Tim Hudson 56.8

Here's a list of the 500 greatest individual seasons

Single-Season Leaders &amp Records for Wins Above Replacement - Baseball-Reference.com

Mays and Ruth are tied for most seasons leading the league in WAR with 7 each. Walter Johnson is next with 6.

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DiMaggio's career totals, including WAR, fall short because he was in the army for three years and retired at 36.
Good point, I often forget about military service. That says a lot for Williams, who served in both WWII and Korea, IIRC.
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Yes, but he only hit 203 of his 660 home runs in Candlestick.

Not sure what this would be relevant to, but 203 of 660 homers is 31%. 3,524 of Mays's 12,496 career plate appearances occurred in Candlestick, which is 28%. Mays homered more frequently in Candlestick than he did in other parks.
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Good point, I often forget about military service. That says a lot for Williams, who served in both WWII and Korea, IIRC.
Without those interruptions, Williams projects for 700+/- homers. And oh, btw.....He did bat .400 in a season. Arguably the best pure hitter in the modern era.
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Without those interruptions, Williams projects for 700+/- homers. And oh, btw.....He did bat .400 in a season. Arguably the best pure hitter in the modern era.
One thing about hitting the magical .400, it used to not be such an
unheard of achievement. From 1900 to 1941 it had been done twelve
times until Williams did it last in 41'. When he did it, only eleven years
had past since the last hitter did it, but today, it has been over 70 years
and may never, ever, be done again.
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Hats off to you Mr. Williams.
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Based on evidence presented so far, Ruth is clearly the best ever. Highest career WAR by a large margin, led league in WAR seven seasons, tied for most alltime, and in 41 World Series games he batted .326 with with a .467 obp and 15 home runs (which averages to 59 in a 162 game season), 33 rbi (130 in a 162 game season) and 37 runs. He is also the all-time regular and postseason leader in slugging percentage.
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