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Old December 30th, 2017, 12:52 PM   #41

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Which topics interest or obsess our members about Indian subcontinent? - 3


But then which exactly are the topics we enjoy typing our replies about, digging about, fighting about??

Original home of Indo-Aryans is the most hotly debated topic. A full 9438 replies are on this subject and constitute 23% of the posts related to Indian subcontinent.

The threads cover: Aryan Invasion Theory, Aryan Migration Theory, Aryan homeland was in India (North India, Kalash people are a proof of 'Out of India Theory', discovery of underwater ruins of Dwarka proves AIT is wrong), and identification of Saraswati River mentioned 70+ times in Rig Ved Samhita.

We should focus discuss on new scientific & archaeological discoveries on the topic because the old data is obviously not enough to settle the debate. Further evidence is likely to come from more Genetic Mapping, studies of ancient DNA, and more archaeology.

One thing is clear: The fire about Aryan Invasion / Migration was lit during colonial historiography and clearly it is burning bright today as well.

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Replies : Thread title {Originated by}

1818 : Is the Aryan Invasion (into India) Theory fact or fiction {Black Vegetable}
1786 : Aryan Migration Theory update {Onkar Karambay}
1680 : Saraswati was never an Indus Valley River {Ticker}
1554 : Aryan Invasion Theory - India {Rasta}
0743 : Kalash evidence for Out of India (OIT) theory {sonofstars}
0585 : Aryan invasion theory - Pro and contra {rakovsky}
0526 : Indo-European homeland is North India {Bharadwaja Brahmin}
0210 : Dwarka- Solid proof of Lord Krishna's existence & AIT's death {Onkar Karambay}
0199 : Indo-Aryans in Bactria? {Vajra}
0173 : Aryan Invasion and other matters {Qvaestor Septimvs lvlivs}
0164 : Inherent flaw of Aryan 'migration' theory Rakshasa

9438 : Total replies on Original Home of Indo-Aryans

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Old December 31st, 2017, 03:03 AM   #42

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Nice compilation, Rajeev.
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Old December 31st, 2017, 04:35 AM   #43

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Interesting work Rajeev. Worth remembering here that thread titles don't always reflect the discussion in the thread itself. For instance many of the threads on the Harappan Culture frequently end up having numerous discussions on colonial politics and historiography which ends up even post colonial history. Thus in terms of quantum of replies indicating post interest it is worth considering that relying on thread topic and op might skew conclusion.

You may also want to consider threads in the general history forum. Many threads which end up getting contentious are moved to the chamber. Later closed at times. One notable I can think off is the Great Injustice to History thread which is even today one of the longest threads in the general history forum. You maybe interested in the impact on your numbers the movement of threads has.
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Interesting work Rajeev. Worth remembering here that thread titles don't always reflect the discussion in the thread itself. For instance many of the threads on the Harappan Culture frequently end up having numerous discussions on colonial politics and historiography which ends up even post colonial history. Thus in terms of quantum of replies indicating post interest it is worth considering that relying on thread topic and op might skew conclusion.

You may also want to consider threads in the general history forum. Many threads which end up getting contentious are moved to the chamber. Later closed at times. One notable I can think off is the Great Injustice to History thread which is even today one of the longest threads in the general history forum. You maybe interested in the impact on your numbers the movement of threads has.
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Yes Tornada,

You are right on both the points.

In most threads there are posts which strictly speaking deviate from the OP / thread topic. This vitiates the reply count. To eliminate this error one would have to individually read all 65K posts and exercise judgment whether it is in or out.

Second point is also valid some of thread connected with Indian subcontinent are in the 'Chamber' (like 'Great Injustice to Ancient Indian History' with 3231 replies) or in General History (like 'The Legacy of the British Empire'). In fact there are relevant threads in War & Military, Ancient History etc. Correcting this also requires sifting thru all forums and reading a few posts in each.

But then life & time are limited. This being too much work have struck to approximation of 'Number of Replies' in 'Asian History' Forum.

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Old January 1st, 2018, 11:27 AM   #45

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Who authored the Harappan Civilization & to whom does it "belong"? (aka Indus valley Civilization) is the 2nd most discussed topic about Indian subcontinent. A full 3139 replies are on this subject and constitute 8% of the posts related to Indian subcontinent.

We tend to ignore / dislike discussing the huge amount of archaeological data and multi-disciplinary findings about this civilization - like analysis of Dental remains, Climate & pollen research, Genetic data on origin of agricultural crops and domesticated animal. Then there is Linguistic analysis on bifurcation of language tree, names of crops plants, rivers. (Human genetics research is also pouring out lots of data but its discussion is banned in our forum.)

We find it easier to discuss our pet theories/claims, giving vent our fond hopes, yes hopes. Most of the discussion gets folded inside following umbrella:

Was not Harappan civilization authored by Proto-Dravidian/Tamil or indigenous Indo-Aryans of India (Bhirrana issue) or Gonds (Plot to hide history)? Does it not "belongs" to Pakistan or India? Your India (or Pakistan) "did not exist" before in 1947. How dare you say that Harappan Civilization belongs to you?

There are two threads which away from the above umbrella: IVC - Life Religion Downfall and what remained; Public baths in ancient India.

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Replies Thread title {Originated by}

692 : Indus Valley Civilisation was Proto-Dravidian {Vinnie}
447 : Public baths in ancient India {Vinnie}
407 : Indus Valley is Tamil Civilization {omtamil}
386 : Who does the Indus Valley's history bring to? India or Pakistan {AfghanistanBactriaAriana}
300 : Indus Civilization - Pakistan {zindadilpakistan}
272 : Plot to hide by distorted history and arachaeology {NIROSHAN}
242 : Speculations about the IVC {Venkytalks}
234 : Bhirrana, India 7500 BC {Vinnie}
159 : IVC - Life Religion Downfall and what remained {Venkytalks}

3139 : Total replies on Harappan Era & Mehrgadh Era

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I salute your industry. Nice work. Thank you for sharing your hard work.
This thread is now a sticky.

It would be nice if other members would follow his sterling example, maybe indexing the American Civil War threads. Just a thought.
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I salute your industry. Nice work. Thank you for sharing your hard work.
This thread is now a sticky.

It would be nice if other members would follow his sterling example, maybe indexing the American Civil War threads. Just a thought.
Dear Pedro,

Thanks for the kind appreciation.

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this should be pinned or sticked
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Old February 3rd, 2018, 05:15 PM   #49

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Wonderful effort Rajeev. Thanks
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