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View Poll Results: Favorite Japanese Warrior???
Samurai 25 47.17%
Ashigaru/samurai infantry 7 13.21%
ronin 12 22.64%
sohei 2 3.77%
shinobi/ninja 7 13.21%
wako 0 0%
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Old March 1st, 2010, 11:27 AM   #1

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Your Favorite Japanese Warrior?


What is your favorite kind of medieval Japanese warrior, specifically during the Sengoku Jidai period (15th/16th Centuries)?
  • Though samurai fought mounted or on foot, I specifically have upper class, heavily armored cavalrymen using the yari as a lance in mind with this option.
  • The ashigaru were professional infantry, usually peasants or lower class samurai. Some fought with the yari, others the longbow, and still others the Portuguese arquebus, but all carried the daisho (sword pair consisting of a katana and wakizashi)
  • Ronin were "men of the waves", rogue samurai who had become criminals or mercenaries upon the untimely death of their masters. Many were famous for their skills as swordsmen.
  • Sohei, such as the famous "devil-monks" of Mount Hiei, were Buddhist monks who took to the field wielding the deadly naginata glaive. The famous warriors of the Ikko-Ikki were also "warrior monks".
  • Shinobi, more popularly known by their Sinicized name of ninja, were mercenary swordsmen who were alleged to be masters in the arts of espionage and assassination. The best ninja came from the provinces of Iga and Koga.
  • Wako was the Japanese name applied to Far Eastern pirates, who in fact hailed from Japan, Korea, China, and southeast Asian Islands. Some wako were, or were even led by, samurai, such as the famous "Pirate King" Murakami.
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Old March 1st, 2010, 12:05 PM   #2
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Toyotomi Hideyoshi.
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Old March 1st, 2010, 01:39 PM   #3

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I like ninja. They are mysterious, and I like mysteries.
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Old March 1st, 2010, 02:12 PM   #4

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Kusunoki Masishige

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Old March 2nd, 2010, 05:49 PM   #5
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What is your favorite kind of medieval Japanese warrior, specifically during the Sengoku Jidai period (15th/16th Centuries)?
  • Though samurai fought mounted or on foot, I specifically have upper class, heavily armored cavalrymen using the yari as a lance in mind with this option.
Modern research more and more indicate that the Samurais did not actually fignt as heavy cavalry that often . (except maybe in some cases when they're chasing routers) . only the commanders remain mounted during battle to get better view / movement around the field and direct people, most of their "cavalry" units dismounted to fight.

The best contempory source for the Takeda clan (the clan most famous for their horsemans) Kōyō Gunkan (which is extremely detailed in actual tactics of the Takeda) noted as much that. Though earlier Samurais (in the 12-14th century) mostly did fight as horse archers. (but not in the same sense as the Stepp nomads)
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  • The ashigaru were professional infantry, usually peasants or lower class samurai. Some fought with the yari, others the longbow, and still others the Portuguese arquebus, but all carried the daisho (sword pair consisting of a katana and wakizashi)
Daisho was only worn by the samurai class, and it appears that it was only really standard by the Edo period (when most of the fightings ended). they were side arms at best in real war and it seem pretty pointless for common peasents to waste their limited resource on getting a fancy sidearm. (they did all carry some sort of blade, but it was really whatever they can get (like a Tanto, or just any sort of normal hunting / working blade)


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Ronin simply means unemployed samuarai (or those seeking employment as samurais, the class distinction was really not nearly as strict before the Edo period). before the edo period at least sometimes they become Ronin happen for all sorts of reason (getting fired for a varity of reasons, having enough with your boss and leaves, deciding that you need to learn more things so you leave volunterily etc)

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  • Sohei, such as the famous "devil-monks" of Mount Hiei, were Buddhist monks who took to the field wielding the deadly naginata glaive. The famous warriors of the Ikko-Ikki were also "warrior monks".
No, the vast majority of Ikko-Ikki were basically the same as any other Daiymo armies, made up of some samurais (though usually of the lower class) and a lot of commoners. Sohei mostly existed in the earlier era, by the Sengoku period actual warrior monks (those who were actual monks, not just warriors fighting for the monestary) were more rare. Ikko-Ikki was so dangeous because the monestaries at the time were fabulously wealthy. often more so than the daiymos , so they had a huge advantage in sustaining the war.

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  • Shinobi, more popularly known by their Sinicized name of ninja, were mercenary swordsmen who were alleged to be masters in the arts of espionage and assassination. The best ninja came from the provinces of Iga and Koga.
They were spies first, spying usually don't involve sword fighting or you done something really wrong. obviously some were indeed capable of assasination and other special ops , but most were done in far less mystical ways than pop culture make them to be (like basically just dress up as commoners or ashigarus .)
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Old March 2nd, 2010, 08:20 PM   #6

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My vote is for ronin's. Since that's what Musashi Miyamoto (sp?) was and he was probably the greatest Japanese warrior in history.
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Old March 3rd, 2010, 12:38 PM   #7

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I voted Ronin. Nothing better than a masterless hardcore warrior!
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Old April 5th, 2010, 03:15 PM   #8

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Takeda Shingen.
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Old July 24th, 2010, 02:06 AM   #9

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Toyotomi Hideyoshi.
The sandal bearer turned general. My favorite samurai warrior.
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Old July 30th, 2010, 05:29 PM   #10
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of course the ronins, they are the real swordmasters, even when hired they are still ronins at heart
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