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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:31 PM   #21

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I'm not for sure, but I think one would want to kill the mother wolf as soon as the pups were weened.
Other studies suggest that the wolves that would hang out around the camp site, looking for scraps and warning us of danger, were never the ones that would become fully tamed....it was their puppies that were stolen and tamed, and after selective 'stealing' and breeding, domestication occurred.

Its almost funny how there are still wild dogs around - wolves, coyotes, etc. You'd think that once we got our hands on something, we'd try to tame the hell out of every last member of the species lol
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 10:27 PM   #22

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Dogs are great. Any dog-lovers out there should watch a little-known movie called Dean Spanley - which is about a clergyman who believes he was a dog in a previous life. It is a brilliantly subtle and understated story that relies entirely on dialogue and the acting to carry it - no special effects, digital enhancements or 'modern' camera movement. Highly recommended for all the dog owners in the world.
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Doggies are wonderful. Asking for so little but giving so much. Who is not impressed at the work of the Shepherd Collie or the Blind Guide dog ??? . .. I guess that I am a total softie with our dogs (Shih Tzuís) . Please donít attach a stoic Darwinian chart to a companion or an is bred for doing our dirty jobs. Admit it, they participate as a family member, secure our homes, entertain us and sometime can be found on the beds. We are important to them and both appreciate it. They can quickly maneuver in our emotional zones to communicate with us as well as to get what want from us.

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Old March 26th, 2010, 03:14 PM   #24

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Woof to that!
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Old March 31st, 2010, 10:25 AM   #25

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even Horses and donkeys are from the Middle East because it was fertile, and then it turn into desert and that forced the animals to develop
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Old March 31st, 2010, 11:55 AM   #26

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even Horses and donkeys are from the Middle East because it was fertile, and then it turn into desert and that forced the animals to develop
The first domesticated horse remains were found in present day Ukraine from what I remember reading...

And I'm still having trouble understanding the Californian studies around the origins of the dog. First they say Middle East, but if you look at the approximate dating, the earliest remains seem to have been found in Belgium...

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Other studies suggest that the wolves that would hang out around the camp site, looking for scraps and warning us of danger, were never the ones that would become fully tamed....it was their puppies that were stolen ...
Stolen? I think that would be easier said than done. I think the mother wolf would "insist" upon being killed.
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Stolen? I think that would be easier said than done. I think the mother wolf would "insist" upon being killed.
Then the mother was probably killed...
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Old March 31st, 2010, 07:05 PM   #29

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Actually, dogs are baby wolves. Among adult wolves, barking is never observed, but among wolf pups it's as prevalent as with dogs. Same with floppy ears. Our early ancestors selected for less agressive characteristics, recognizing the invaluable hunting abilities of wolves, but excising alphas. So we have dogs, our teammates and friends. We still hunt wolves.
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Then the mother was probably killed...
Well what do you think was in Saturday's Stew? LOL, couldn't resist
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