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Old December 13th, 2016, 07:03 AM   #11

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Doesn't a plot have to have a motive?, to sell stuff then?, or what?
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Old December 13th, 2016, 07:11 AM   #12
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[QUOTE=Aatreya;2662916]What are you hallucinating? How can you even decide to which region they belong by looking at this?

Is proved that it was Sumerians who migrated here who started civilizing locals. Even IVC treaded heav8ly with anc8ent Sumeria.


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Look at the dancing girl and other imageries from IVC. They do not look anything different from the North West Indian way of dressing.

Caste system. Those aadivasi heere slaves of IVC. Anyway most of statues of IVC looks liwe Caucasians. North West Indians are different from other part of Indians.

No, the middle East women did not dress anything like the dancing girl.

We are talking about 5000 yr old civilization, not about 200 year Islamic empire.
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Old December 13th, 2016, 07:15 AM   #13
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What are you hallucinating? How can you even decide to which region they belong by looking at this?

Is proved that it was Sumerians who migrated here who started civilizing locals. Even IVC treaded heav8ly with anc8ent Sumeria.


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Click the image to open in full size.

Look at the dancing girl and other imageries from IVC. They do not look anything different from the North West Indian way of dressing.

Caste system. Those aadivasi heere slaves of IVC. Anyway most of statues of IVC looks liwe Caucasians. North West Indians are different from other part of Indians.

No, the middle East women did not dress anything like the dancing girl.

We are talking about 5000 yr old civilization, not about 200 year Islamic empire.
Yes, precisely. Not 200 year old but 5000 year old dressing ways. Please check the middle Eastern way, and compare it with the dancing girl.

What Adivasi slaves? Stop blowing hot air.
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There is no single 8nd8an race. Each region have its own phenotype. For example.

Aryans of North West mixed with these migrats.

Aryans of BIMARU mixed with mixed Tribal people.

And Aryans of south and Bengal are mixed with Migrats and Tribal/Australoid people.

That's why even today 30% Caucasian population of India looks somewhatdifferent.
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Yes, precisely. Not 200 year old but 5000 year old dressing ways. Please check the middle Eastern way, and compare it with the dancing girl.

What Adivasi slaves? Stop blowing hot air.
Map al9ne proves my point forget other notable historians.
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Old December 13th, 2016, 08:04 AM   #16
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Map al9ne proves my point forget other notable historians.
Your map conveys no information but for the shading from middle East to India. If you meant that shading proved Sumerian origin, good luck. With the same map I can easily argue that IVC influenced Sumerian, in the light of IIT scientists proving that IVC was from the eighth millennium BCE.
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Your map conveys no information but for the shading from middle East to India. If you meant that shading proved Sumerian origin, good luck. With the same map I can easily argue that IVC influenced Sumerian, in the light of IIT scientists proving that IVC was from the eighth millennium BCE.
i say west Asian Racial Group.

and No People who created IVc are West Asian Caucasoid. it's easy to know.

1) West Asian Helogroups are Native to that Region, not to south West Asia.

2) it's South west asians who look like half West Asians not people of Syria,Iraq,Iran etc etc.

3) Genetics, i know we are not allowed to discuss genetics here, so i am just going to leave this quote here...

take example of Gujarat, it's facing Arabian peninsula and Persia directly. but it's not neighbor of West Asia by land like Sindh and Punjab. now Read this.

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In terms of ancestry, Gujaratis share identical genes with the rest of the North Indian populations. (Punjab,Sindh,Western Up,Haryana,Rajasthan etc etc.)

A 2004 Stanford study conducted with a wide sampling from India, found that over 33% of genetic markers in Gujarat were partially of West Eurasian origin, the second highest amongst the sampled group of South Asians.
after punjabis and kashimiris.


mtDNA Haplogroup "Removed" is found in Iran, the rest of the near east, the Caucasus,

Afghanistan, India, and Pakistan; with extremely low frequencies in neighboring countries Turkmenistan,Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Iraq. Its frequency peaks at over 12% in Gujarat, 9% in Iran, 9% in Punjab, 6% in Pakistan and 6% in Afghanistan.

Some preliminary conclusions from these varying tests support some of the highest degrees of Indian mtDNAs found in Western Asia, supporting a theory of trade contact and migrations out of Gujarat into West Asia.
since ancient times, large no of west asians settled here and some even migrated to west asia for trade. gujarat was always rich since IVc. so nothing new here.

we are not even discussing about Punjab and sindh, which are right beside West Asia. after visiting punjab and Delhi i can safely say that extreme north Indians(Delhi) are mixture of West Asains and Central Asians. there is no "Ekk India" simply, South asia is almost 50% of whole Europe. if even in western europe italians and british/scots/irish doont look same than it's not hard to understand that people in north look different from rest of SA(West Asians+Central Asians), people from West look different from rest of SA (West Asia+C Asia+Bhills), people from East (BIMARU) look different from Rest of SA (minor West Asian and C asia+ large Tribal and Munda), and same for south india (Australoid).

if you think that all south asians are same because of skin color than why not call iranians and arabs indian too ? we are all different, only united by some shared ancestry, Culture and religion.


sorry for butting in bros.

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There is no single 8nd8an race. Each region have its own phenotype. For example.

Aryans of North West mixed with these migrats.

Aryans of BIMARU mixed with mixed Tribal people.

And Aryans of south and Bengal are mixed with Migrats and Tribal/Australoid people.

That's why even today 30% Caucasian population of India looks somewhatdifferent.
whats 30% Caucasian ?
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also dear OP read this quote from sir Aup.

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Why do not you say the indigenous people of India? We have no information about the people you are referring to. There are thousands of tribes in India. Each region is inhabited by its own tribal people who have various beliefs and traditions. Your are making all of them as Tamil or Santhal without any historical proof.

distance from Dwarika to dubai distance 1450 km, to maskzt 1100 km, to port abbas 1400 km, chabhar is 900km

please remember that it's easy to move via sea than move via land.

now dwarika to tamil nadu 2250 km, to banglore 2000 km, to rameshwaram tip of india is 2500 km, to kolkata is 2550 km, to lucknow 1650, to parna 2161km etc etc.

what i am trying to say is we north (till delhi )and west indians(sindh,Rajasthan and mostly saurastra and north gujarat) are race of our own. and upper caste population of other parts of india are related to us like brahmins and rajputs. rest looks strikingly different.
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i say west Asian Racial Group.

and No People who created IVc are West Asian Caucasoid. it's easy to know.

1) West Asian Helogroups are Native to that Region, not to south West Asia.

2) it's South west asians who look like half West Asians not people of Syria,Iraq,Iran etc etc.

3) Genetics, i know we are not allowed to discuss genetics here, so i am just going to leave this quote here...

take example of Gujarat, it's facing Arabian peninsula and Persia directly. but it's not neighbor of West Asia by land like Sindh and Punjab. now Read this.



since ancient times, large no of west asians settled here and some even migrated to west asia for trade. gujarat was always rich since IVc. so nothing new here.

we are not even discussing about Punjab and sindh, which are right beside West Asia. after visiting punjab and Delhi i can safely say that extreme north Indians(Delhi) are mixture of West Asains and Central Asians. there is no "Ekk India" simply, South asia is almost 50% of whole Europe. if even in western europe italians and british/scots/irish doont look same than it's not hard to understand that people in north look different from rest of SA(West Asians+Central Asians), people from West look different from rest of SA (West Asia+C Asia+Bhills), people from East (BIMARU) look different from Rest of SA (minor West Asian and C asia+ large Tribal and Munda), and same for south india (Australoid).

if you think that all south asians are same because of skin color than why not call iranians and arabs indian too ? we are all different, only united by some shared ancestry, Culture and religion.


sorry for butting in bros.
Sorry, I could not comprehend most of what you wrote.

I never told all South Asians are same because of skin color. All I told was IVC was not a product of Sumerian influence, that is all. As to what IVC people were, we will get to know when the Rakhigarhi results come out.

Until then, we know zilch about what IVC people were in terms of their origins.
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