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Old December 11th, 2016, 01:15 PM   #1

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The unexpected Discovery of Cities of Indus Valley Civilisation in 1920 and Partition of in India in 1947 with the massacre of Sikhs and subsequent betrayals were the turning points of Indian Cultural and Political Unity !

The tragic trajectory had left a indelible trail of "Real or Imagined Aryan/Dravidian Divide and Division of Caste system which disadvantaged -- Sudras, Dalits and Adi-Vasis and also many other more Powerful groups higher up on the social hierarchy created " in the name of God" ,takes a long time to Bridge!
Because Long ago they made a "Tryst With Their Destiny" and a time will come rarely in the history of their own lifetime that shall redeem their pledges ! The long suppressed souls will able to awake up to a the new reality and able exercise their Freedom and Choice !

Archaeology Indus Valley Civilization
Drawings of Indus Valley discovered near Hampi
By Mystery Of India -
20/12/2014

The Indus Valley Civilisation has puzzled archaeologists and researchers ever since it was first discovered in the early twentieth century. Who were these ancient people who lived along the Indus River between 3,300 and 1,300 B.C. Could they have been wiped out by a flood or some terrible disease which killed the people? what made them, to migrate to other parts like North East South India? [Cf Does Rig Veda and other Sanskritic Scriptures say any thing about it ?].

The writing system of the Indus Valley Civilization is not deciphered and it still remains a mystery. All attempts to decipher it have failed . This is one of the reasons why the Indus Valley Civilization is one of the least known of the important early civilizations of antiquity.
.......“On the goddess Kotamma temple woollen market way there is a rocky roof shelter for shepherds and sheep to stay at night up to morning.”
The sentence emerged after a set of 19 drawing and pictographs discovered on a hilltop in Hampi -Karnataka, India were deciphered using root morphemes of " Gondi Tribe" language. Eleven of the Hampi pictographs resemble those of the Indus valley civilisation.This innocuous sounding statement could actually be a revolutionary find linking the Gondi tribe to the Indus Valley civilisation.
The Gondi people are a Dravidian people of Central India, spread over the states of Madhya Pradesh, eeastern Maharashtra , Chhattisgarh, Uttar Pradesh, Telangana and Western Odisha. With over four million people, they are the largest tribe in Central India.
“Eleven of the Hampi pictographs resemble the Late Harappan writing of the Indus Valley Civilisation”, says Dr KM Metry, professor of tribal studies at the Kannada University. The professor claims that this shows that after the collapse of the civilisation situated in North-West India, the Harappans moved to other parts of the country, with some of them settling in Central India and a majority of them in the South.
Years of his research on Gondi culture, visits to tribal areas in Chhattisgarh and recent discovery of drawing led him to believe that undeciphered script of the Indus Valley Civilisation is a combination of Gondi symbols.
Dr KM Metry, who discovered what appear to be rock paintings of the Harappan script in Hampi. – Image Source
“The ability to decipher the script has proven elusive because no one has attempted to study the script using Gondi symbols and language.*When you start looking at the script keeping in mind Gondi symbols, then everything becomes clear,” says Dr. Motiravan Kangali, a linguist and expert in Gondi language and culture from Nagpur.
Though the discovery is yet to be authenticated, Dr. Metry and his associates are very optimistic about their work. If the discovery stands the scrutiny of experts in the field, it would mean that the Gonds living in central and southern India could have migrated from the Indus Valley civilisation.


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Old December 11th, 2016, 05:37 PM   #2

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The long suppressed souls will able to awake up to a the new reality and able exercise their Freedom and Choice !
.. and become Christian. Christians should worry more about US Americans, Europeans and Australians who are abandoning Christianity in droves.

Let the Professor's discovery be authenticated. As for now, we do not know the composition of the Harappan people and why the civilization perished. Also, why skeletons were found in streets. If they were Gondi people, why did not they create a similar civilization in places where they migrated? Also, how are they being suppressed? The constitution has given them ample rights and facilities. They have a presence in every elected body in India to a minimum of their percentage in population. Why an evangelical topic in a history forum? Please continue. I am sure I will be able to reply to all your posts.

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Let the Professor's discovery be authenticated. As for now, we do not know the composition of the Harappan people and why the civilization perished. Also, why skeletons were found in streets. If they were Gondi people, why did not they create a similar civilization in places where they migrated? Also, how are they being suppressed? The constitution has given them ample rights and facilities. They have a presence in every elected body in India to a minimum of their percentage in population. Why an evangelical topic in a history forum?.
I really Believe your honesty and Integrity and you always speaks the truth from the depth of your Heart and not from your head to mislead the people lknow that you've transcended Caste,Creed and Ethnic Division --A great Indian Nationalist and Patriot---However I don't agree with you on some of your views
Why an Evangelical topic in an Historic Forum ? This is the second time you have raised this question on my post when I never mentioned anything about Christianity and I am duty bound to reply in this occasion in kindness not out of anger but out of sadness to allay a misapprehension ---First of all I am a "Hindu" from the orthodox tradition of Shivasim Like and I am very proud to be so although I studied in a Christian school and I was Born and brought up in a Theravada Buddhist country and people!
Your statement in my view displays double standard --How come you almost always discuss about Indian and/Persian Religions in the Historic Forum ---Why cant you Discuss them under the Topic Religion ?? BONDI TRIBES
Please don't get me wrong Indus vally does not belong to Bondi Tribe only---It has been well know IVC Extented into a very large area into the present day NE Afganistan/Pakistan and NW India ---it belonged to the tribes of Proto--drvidian and Para-Muda tribes--Only traces of their tribes now live as Adi--Vasis . According to The the latest census there are more than 100, million people still living scattered all over India . Of course things are changing very slowly -- For Indian Independence for they also fought and lost lives but did not had any rewards because of the political Ideology of " Brahmanism" Like the Ideology of Black Pope and Jesuits priests and khazarian zionists [Knights of Malta in Catholicism under Vatican !

How they are being suffering ? Are you serious or joking ?
only 8th Dec I posted a Copy of small Part of the original verdict by the apex court on an appeal by a Gondi Woman again Physical humiliation and assault for the simple reason she was a tribal woman in public[ copy my post below in case you missed it]
Last year I Watched a TV Program in London some where near NE of India--Where there was an Army camp and the soldiers rape tribal women regularly at their whims and sexual fancies knowing there will be no consequences despite repeated protestation, complaints to local police and courts by the tribal people including their appeals to Local NGO went unheard and there was no response what so ever from so called corrupt Government establishment officials thrive on bribes
Finally more than one Dozen of women decided to stand fully naked in front of the army camp Immediately many TV stations rushed their reporters from Delhi to the scene immediately to take Photograph first to show on their media house to increase their ratings! It was subsequently shown all over the world along with their sad and sordid stories -Then only Indian Government got involved through their Local MP to look into their grievances-Don't thing Maoist insurgency somewhere near there happening by some lunatics who loves violence and terror against Army and Police --Even if you attack an animal it will retaliate!
I am Confident justice will be done to the oppressed all over the world and the " modus operandi" of dialectic subterfuges and deceptions by the so called elites [eg Globalists like Clinton's and Bush's in US] will be exposed because of the era of Information Technology --See you In India now Know what is Happening to Adi-vasis in your own country because of Internet


TRAJECTORRY OF SYMBOLISM [ on Dec 8th ] ----Thread += 31

CRIMINAL APPEAL . 1/2011 JUDGMENT
(Arising out of Special Leave Petition (Crl) No. 10367 of 2010)
Kailas & Others VS State of Maharashtra Tr. Taluka .

[Selected Relevant Paras in a very long Historic Verdict ]
In the above said Appeal judgement by the Apex Court has stated that the Injustice done to the Tribal People of India is a shameful chapter in our country’s history. The Tribals were called ‘Rakshas’ (demons), ‘Asuras’, and what not!. They were ** SLAUGHTERED IN LARGE NUMBERS**, and the Survivors and their Descendants were *DEGRADED, HUMILIATED * and all kinds of ATROCITIES Inflicted on them *FOR CENTURIES*. They were deprived of their lands, and pushed into forests and hills where they eke out a miserable existence of Poverty, Literacy, Disease, etc. And now efforts are being made by some people to Deprive them even of their Forest and Hill Lands

I guess Bhil Tribe Is the Largest group still living in many parts of North india
I wanted write About "Ancient tribe of Sindh People" and their original Language along with foreign traders colony of Phoenicians [Pani]living around Mohanjadaro City --Unfortunately I have to rush off now---But will write about them soon
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The actual tribals in India live outside the confines of the traditional Hindu village society. They are simply not civilised or competent enough to present themselves on the subcontinental scale, and are not "suppressed" neither historically nor in modern times. A handful of unrelated cases of rape and such do not mean that there is any general or systematic suppression going on. The groups that were and are actually suppressed in India are the Shudra communities that are usually a part of the village social hierarchy, and have been thoroughly exploited both on a economic and a social level. However, their situations are now somewhat improving due to positive discrimination and increasing urbanisation in India which shatters the old ties of kinship and traditional occupation as people move to cities.
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IVC is an North Western civilization created by Leven people who migrated here. It's history of Punjabi, Push tun, Kashmiri, haryanvi, Western up, rajasthan and gujarati people. Australoid of south are not related to Great IVC.
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Creator of IVC , typical west Asian looking Caucasians.

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People who migrated from Sumeria
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Creator of IVC , typical west Asian looking Caucasians.
What are you hallucinating? How can you even decide to which region they belong by looking at this?

Look at the dancing girl and other imageries from IVC. They do not look anything different from the North West Indian way of dressing.

No, the middle East women did not dress anything like the dancing girl.
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.. and not from your head to mislead the people.
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.. it belonged to the tribes of Proto-dravidian and Para-Munda tribes .. Only traces of their tribes now live as Adi-Vasis.
Why do not you say the indigenous people of India? We have no information about the people you are referring to. There are thousands of tribes in India. Each region is inhabited by its own tribal people who have various beliefs and traditions. Your are making all of them as Tamil or Santhal without any historical proof. Further, you are taking the view that the indigenous inhabitants would never have progressed. There must have been priests among the indigenous also, and people other who were engaged in other professions, warriors, traders, agriculturists. Remember, Harappans are supposed to have good trade relations with far off places. They were not all forest dwellers. But you make them forest dwellers even after 5,000 years. that does not happen in history. As I have mentioned, the indigenous were adopted in the four varnas of Aryans with their jatis. The indigenous kings became Nagavamshis warriors. Vyasas, Vaidyas and Ojhas were included among brahmins. Now, I may be wrong with details but I do not think what broadly happened was other than this.

Most of the present conflict among castes in India is because of the attempt by the 'Other Backwad Classes' (OBC, read comparatively rich villagers) and the 'Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes' (SC/ST) for political domination, very well exemplified by Samajwadi Party of Mulayam Singh and Bahujan Samaj Party of Mayavati in Uttar Pradesh. The OBC generally dominate because of their larger population (27% as compared to 16% of the others). Brahmins are just not involved, actually they have lost the most. But if you go by BBC, reports in European media or missionary propaganda and have no grass-root information, then naturally, you will have this type of views.

Then in places where naxalism is continuing and security forces are killed, I do not deny that there will be cases of revenge also. But as you have yourself mentioned the cases are going to the courts. If the naxalites think that they can provide better facilities to people, they should join the democratic political process that exists in India. We have opposition parties ruling in many states and two of them have communist rule. If anybody thinks that they can bring Indian government to knees by violent means then they are under serious misunderstanding and will only face sorrows.

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