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Old February 16th, 2017, 09:09 PM   #1
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Film mistakes that stand out too much.


I have noticed two mistakes that seem to be repeated in Western television in their portrayal of Chinese people. The first is non-Ching dynasty Chinese men wearing queues and the second would be Chinese(of any dynasty) using katanas as a primary weapon.

But anyway,I just posted this message so that members of other Asian cultures can also post the mistakes made on TV about their culture.
So guys,let me know of the mistakes you've noticed.

To be fair, the animation Mulan didn't have Chinese wearing queues and using katanas so they at least got that right. And the China made series about Kublai Khan wasn't so accurate either as it had Europeans wearing what you might see in a Sherlock Holmes flick.

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Old February 16th, 2017, 09:29 PM   #2

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The entire movie “The Great Wall” is an affront to all of Chinese military history in my humble opinion. I can barely make it through the trailer.
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Old February 17th, 2017, 02:16 AM   #3

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I have noticed two mistakes that seem to be repeated in Western television in their portrayal of Chinese people. The first is non-Ching dynasty Chinese men wearing queues and the second would be Chinese(of any dynasty) using katanas as a primary weapon.

I've noticed that too. I blame kung-fu movies. For some westerners that's their only frame of reference for Chinese history. And since many of those movies are set during Qing times they create the impression that Qing hairstyles and costumes are just "default historical Chinese costumes" that apply to any era. The average westerner isn't aware of the differences between the fashions of different Chinese historical periods. And unfortunately some are too lazy to do proper research before portraying Chinese history.

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Old February 17th, 2017, 04:26 AM   #4

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Portrayal of pre-Qing Chinese men without long hair or with a queue. This is way too common in Western films, animations, and video games. Equally common is seeing men in cheongsam and women in qipao.

Some specific ases:

*Ming gunsmith in 1920s cheongsam and a buzzcut in Deadliest Warrior
*A Chinaman with short hair in Civilizations 6 trailer
*Ming Army under Zheng He wearing Qing uniforms in Age of Empires 3 - this is more understandable because Qing represents China in the game and a mere campaign does not justify a reskin of every single Chinese unit in the game

The implications is that people mistake Hanfu as Japanese. Actually people mistake any non-Qing aesthetics and fashion as Japanese.
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Old February 17th, 2017, 05:06 AM   #5

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Even the Chinese themselves dont know their history. Have you ever bothered to look at the Chinese tv series and movies?
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Old February 17th, 2017, 07:06 AM   #7
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The average westerner isn't aware of the differences between the fashions of different Chinese historical periods. And unfortunately some are too lazy to do proper research before portraying Chinese history.
Agreed. Someone would have to be very lazy to not pick up a book to learn about something as simple as a hairstyle.
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The katana is not a new idea - the single-edged Chinese Dao saber dates back to the Shang Dynasty.


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Above is a picture of bodyguard from the Qing Dynasty - his side arm looks very much like a Japanese wakazashi.
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The katana is not a new idea - the single-edged Chinese Dao saber dates back to the Shang Dynasty.
Not sure what you are trying to say here but what I meant was that in Western films the Chinese characters are clearly carrying Japanese looking Katanas. Like from the one here http://roleplay.wikia.com/wiki/Katana All those Katanas in Western films (being held by Chinese) are not variations but rather an exact copy of what someone would buy if they are fans of Japanese swords.

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Above is a picture of bodyguard from the Qing Dynasty - his side arm looks very much like a Japanese wakazashi.
Are you saying that his weapon had some Japanese influence? His sidearm was most likely influenced by the Mongol sabre or the Manchus had their own version of the sabre since they were also people from the North.

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Old February 17th, 2017, 12:39 PM   #10

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I must say that I had always assumed that Chinese swords were similar to the Japanese katana until I visited a museum in China and saw the real thing - straight swords very similar to a European broadsword or a Roman gladius.
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