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Old April 20th, 2017, 07:32 PM   #11
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Apart from the Japanese occupation, Korea as a country has never really been part of a different country.

Historians would respond to Xi Jinping, not to Donald Trump since he is merely repeating what he has heard.

"Please educate yourself"
拉倒吧,中国人懒得搞这些劳什子修正主义
no kidding, chinese cannot careless to do this.
we would rather build more missles ready for thaad if we have time.

btw, i appreciate anyone who can translate my words more vividly

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Old April 20th, 2017, 07:43 PM   #12
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Aren't korea a vassal state of the Ming and Manchus? And I remembered Manchus invaded Korea before it ever crossed the Shanhai Pass?

And aren't north korea still a vassal state of today's PRC? If PRC occupies NK before anyone lays his hands on it, imho, PRC has every right to retain it, provided there is no opposition from the people of NK.

But, of course, PRC has absolutely no right on absorbing SK today.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 07:54 PM   #13
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play a recorded tape before you turn it to china.
if you cannot but you still target china, we will turn our face away. i will.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:22 PM   #14
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelang_Commandery

They are half correct, and maybe for a couple centuries.
Lelang commandery is not entire Korea.

If that logic were to be used, then you could also say that China was a part of Korea.

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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:23 PM   #15
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Aren't korea a vassal state of the Ming and Manchus? And I remembered Manchus invaded Korea before it ever crossed the Shanhai Pass?

And aren't north korea still a vassal state of today's PRC? If PRC occupies NK before anyone lays his hands on it, imho, PRC has every right to retain it, provided there is no opposition from the people of NK.

But, of course, PRC has absolutely no right on absorbing SK today.
Vassal state / tributary is different from "being part of a different country".
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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:34 PM   #16
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Vassal state / tributary is different from "being part of a different country".
very correct.

in the same way, interpretation made by others is different from speech of oneself.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:44 PM   #17
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lelang_Commandery

They are half correct, and maybe for a couple centuries.
4 centuries
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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:45 PM   #18
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Lelang commandery is not entire Korea.

If that logic were to be used, then you could also say that China was a part of Korea.
Goguryeo and Gojoseon is not Korea.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:46 PM   #19
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A historians response would be to "wish to remind the world that China was once conquered by Mongols. Korean-Mongol brotherhood is everlasting. The Chinese should learn some history."
Koreans are same as Mongols when it's convenient.
Koreans are also same as Manchus when it's convenient.
Koreans are also same as Japanese when it's convenient.

It's sad.
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Old April 20th, 2017, 08:48 PM   #20
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Korea was a tributary of Chine (or the mongols) during the Yuan, Ming and Qing Dynasties on and off for seven hundred years.

When Toyotomi Hideyoshi united Japan under his military dictatorship he asked Korea to help him invade and conquer China. The reply of the king of Korea was that it was madness to try to invade and conquer China, the mother country of both Korea and Japan. So Japan invaded Korea first and the Koreans eventually stopped the Japanese with Chinese help.

Japan defeated China in the first Sino-jJapanse ar of 1894-1895 fought about control of Korea. Korea was declared independent of China so Japan could undermine the government without Chinese interference, and declared an empire in 1897. After Russia was defeated in the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-1905 Japan made Korea a protectorate and annexed Korea in 1910.
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