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Old June 19th, 2017, 07:34 AM   #31

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Aryans started the Family system. They established Dowry System. They wrote the Vedas. Cattle growing main occupation. The term Aryan means Warrior.
Do you mean that there was no concept of family before the Aryan? There is no reference to dowry in RigVeda. Arya meant those following the Vedic rituals, conducting Yajnas.
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these hocus pocus theories need to be strongly discredited. Separating the Tamils from the rest of the Hinduic/Indic universe is not just a lie, it is also an insult to their memory. Tamil authors repeatedly claimed their allegiance to their Hindu roots which is why the Kalambara era of non Hindu rule is considered a dark age of Tamil lands by writers of that era.

Tamil Nadu remained a bastion of Hinduism producing stalwarts such as Shankara and Ramanuja who helped lead the way during their travels to North India at a time when that part of India was under siege by invaders.

Even Sri Lankan Tamils who are considered more Dravidian than their mainland counterparts; were also fervently Hindu and continue to remain so to this day. Infact there is no support for Dravidian nationalism in Eelam areas despite them having been considered pure blood Dravidians by most of the Dravidian Movements.
Its your sentiments, nationalism and religiosity speaking
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Persians had a fixation with 'h'. Hapta-Hendu, Haoma, Horayu, Harahvaiti.I don't find anything bad with that too. Word are just conventions.
Persians only replaced 'S' by 'H'. Otherwise there was no fixation for 'H' as I know.
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Aryans started the Family system. They established Dowry System. They wrote the Vedas. Cattle growing main occupation. The term Aryan means Warrior.
Arya does not mean warrior.
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Persians only replaced 'S' by 'H'. Otherwise there was no fixation for 'H' as I know.
As someone said, from what I hv read somewhere, it's the Sanskrit 's' sound, which is pronounced kind of more like the aspirated English 'th', which the Persians find kind of a bit problematic. So, they chose to transform that Sanskrit 's' into a 'h'. Hence, 'asura' -> 'ahura', 'Sind' -> 'Hind' etc.

The normal 's' sound does not bother them at all, as even their language is called 'Parsi' in their own tongue.
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The term Aryan means Warrior.
As far as I understand it, 'arya' means 'noble'. It is 'kshatriya' that means 'warrior'
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India has been Indian for at least 10k years. If there is any kind of migration it's so far back that it is basically meaningless.
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Naah, can't hv been that long. Becos there're still significant traces of Tibeto-Burman, AustroAsiatic & Australoid, perhaps even some Veddoid, people in the Indian sub-continent even to this day. Guys whose ancestors might hv predated even the Dravidic people in India.
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As someone said, from what I hv read somewhere, it's the Sanskrit 's' sound, which is pronounced kind of more like the aspirated English 'th', which the Persians find kind of a bit problematic. So, they chose to transform that Sanskrit 's' into a 'h'. Hence, 'asura' -> 'ahura', 'Sind' -> 'Hind' etc.

The normal 's' sound does not bother them at all, as even their language is called 'Parsi' in their own tongue.
'S' of Sindhu in Sanskrit is certainly the normal 'S' sound. But almost as a general rule 'S' of Vedic gets replaced by 'H' of Avestan. There are some exceptions such as Vedic "Stut" (Praise) becomes Avestan "Stut".
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.. it's the Sanskrit 's' sound, which is pronounced kind of more like the aspirated English 'th', which the Persians find kind of a bit problematic. So, they chose to transform that Sanskrit 's' into a 'h'. Hence, 'asura' -> 'ahura', 'Sind' -> 'Hind' etc.
'S' is never 'th'. And moreover, the replacement of 's' by 'h' was not done by Persians but perhaps the less sophisticated Bactrians. We are talking of Zoroaster's time.
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India has been Indian for at least 10k years. If there is any kind of migration it's so far back that it is basically meaningless.
Yeah, even the Aryan and the Muslims who came and settled here became very Indian.

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