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Old July 11th, 2017, 05:24 PM   #41

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Now the question - who are Jats? And what is their origin?
Another unsolved problem in Indian history.
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Old July 11th, 2017, 10:45 PM   #42
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Now the question - who are Jats? And what is their origin?
Another unsolved problem in Indian history.
There are so many theories regarding the origin of Jatt people.
Don't know which one to believe in.
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Old July 12th, 2017, 10:08 PM   #43

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Aup ji I will go for another community : Yadavs

This is a large community in North India, claimed their origin from Sri Krishna, but these people are never counted as 'Chandravanshi Rajput'. But I think there is no doubt that Yadavs are Kshatriyas as per their traditions. So, they excluded a large community of Kshatriyas from the fold of Rajputs.

Plus, Yadavs (from Yadu), is the community that find its mention in the ancient texts going back to Rig Veda. But on the other hand I think none of the Rajput clan name we can find in our ancient texts like Mahabharata ? Is it that Rajputs kept the 'original' Kshatriyas out of there fold who ended up consolidating as Yadavs ?
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Regarding Jats, I think there is no doubt that these people originated from North West India, the region that lacks urbanization and even agriculture was not that widespread. I think they came from the original Indo-Aryan stock who ended up reaching this region. However in the course of history when Sakas migrated from the West towards North and Central India, they have to pass through the region of these people and some of them might ended up assimilating with these people. That could be the reason for some similarities between the clans of Jats and Gujjars.
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Old July 12th, 2017, 10:24 PM   #45

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Jat - Aratta - Arashtra - without a nation of their own - nomadic herders
Gujars - Qajar, "Turkic Oghuz tribe who lived variously, with other tribes, in the area that is now Armenia, Azerbaijan and northwestern Iran." - Wikipedia
Yadavas are a real problem.
Not that I know any better.
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This is not related to the topic at all. I was going through this thread casually when I saw the post that contained the picture of the person other than Vijaykanth (probably without his direct permission) whom I know personally. That guy was a good friend of mine and he is one of the most intelligent and hard-working people I've ever known in my life (and trust me, I can and do recognise high quality intelligence when I see it). (And even if he is not intelligent or something or the other or whatever, it should not matter at all.) Seeing his picture dragged into the particularly poor context in which the post places it was very hurtful for me and I felt justified in reporting the post even though the guy himself did not play any role (via direct communication) in my decision to report it.

I may be wrong in doing what I did ultimately, but I felt it was an obligation on my part to try to get that picture removed from the site and as such strongly hope that picture gets removed. Sorry if this post of mine violates the forum's rules and I do not object to the ultimate deletion of my post at all.

I am mainly writing this post to make my poor experience known and hopefully felt too and also to request the good users of this site to rethink decisions that involve posting pictures of people who are obviously not in a very public view, especially in such insulting contexts.
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Atleast they donot fold over to every foriegn ruler like most rajputs do. What are rajput doing today, managing some large palace there ancestors left behind and running the rajputana politics. For all their superiority they could'nt even manage to build an empire in India.
LOL, unlike you my region was never under direct Muslim rule so your claims of folding over to foreign rulers is just hubris.
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