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Old July 22nd, 2017, 11:11 PM   #11
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Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince write in 'The Sion Revelation' that the great secret of Hiéron du Val d'Or was the knowledge of the holy name and password of power: „Aor-Agni”, what in Hebrew means „Light-Fire”. So Agni is Fire in Hebrew, or to be strict was at least till 1927, when Hiéron du Val d'Or – the secret association connected with the Church and the Holy See – stopped to exist formally. That's the best proof that main Arians had Hebrew roots, not even taking into account so called the Star of David, the symbol of Israel but also the symbol of spiritual meditation in India. Brahmins are Jews, no doubt.




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Old July 23rd, 2017, 05:25 AM   #12

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That's the best proof that main Arians had Hebrew roots, not even taking into account so called, the symbol of Israel but also the symbol of spiritual meditation in India. Brahmins are Jews, no doubt.
Or that they picked up these words and from the Zoroastrians when they were in exile in Babylon. The simple geometrical symbols, Star of David and Swastika, do not mean much. All people (including Jews) have been using it from time immemorial.

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Or that they picked up these words and from the Zoroastrians when they were in exile in Babylon. The simple geometrical symbols, Star of David and Swastika, do not mean much. All people (including Jews) have been using it from time immemorial.
I presented my source of information and my proof, give me your (book, article, website) where it's exactly written that the word Agni was taken from the Zoroastrians.
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what do you think ? i think brahmins really have some relations with jewish people. are brahmins banu-israel ?
This is what Wiki has to say which groups in India are related to the Jews:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groups...ith_Israelites

Only Cochin Jews are considered to be related to the Jews through DNA.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 10:02 AM   #15

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The names for fire do not belong only to Zoroastrians. They are PIE, IE, names of fire which are common to both, the Vedas and the Zoroastrians.. Atar - Atish (Atash Behram - the highest form of fire in a Zoroastrian temple, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atash_Behram) are the Zoroastrian words for fire.

From Prokorny Master Etyma (https://lrc.la.utexas.edu/lex/master):
69 āt(e)r- IE ētro- fire
293 egnis : ognis IE fire https://lrc.la.utexas.edu/lex/master/0450
798 peku̯- IE to cook (https://lrc.la.utexas.edu/lex/master/1470)

Agni, god of fire, messengers, and purification (Hindu Mythology)
Agneya, daughter of Agni and guardian of the south-east (Hindu Mythology)
Ognyena Maria, fire goddess who assists Perun (Slavic Mythology)
AGgAra n. heap of charcoal (Sanskrit Dictionary for Spoken Sanskrit)

"Agni from Indo-European root Ag or "to move", with the cognates Latin ignis (the root of English ignite), Sclavonian ogni; Russian огонь (ogon), Polish "ogień", Slovenian "ogenj", Serbian oganj, and Lithuanian ugnis — all with the meaning "fire", with the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European root being h₁égni-."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agni#E...gy_and_meaning

"The Indian Parsi-Zoroastrian practice of rendering the term athornan (derived from the Avestan language "athravan") as "fire-priest" in the English language is based on the mistaken assumption that the athra* prefix derives from atar (Boyce, 2002:16–17). The term athravan does not appear in the Gathas, where a priest is a zaotar, and in its oldest attested use (Yasna 42.6) the term appears to be synonymous with "missionary". In the later Yasht 13.94, Zoroaster himself is said to have been an athravan, which in this context could not be a reference to atar if a cult of fire and its associated priesthood did not yet exist in Zoroaster's time. Thus, in all probability, "the word athravan has a different derivation" (Boyce, 2002:17) Compare this however with the Sanskrit अथर्वन् (atharvan), and the content of Atharva-véda."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atar

"Atharvan (अथर्वन्, atharvan-; an n-stem with nominative singular अथर्वा atharvā) was a legendary Vedic sage (rishi) of Hinduism who along with Angiras is supposed to have authored ("heard") the Atharvaveda. He is also said to have first instituted the fire-sacrifice or yagna. Sometimes he is also reckoned among the seven seers or Saptarishi. His clan is known as the Atharvanas."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atharvan

"Angiras (अंगिरस्, pronounced [əŋɡirəs]) is a Vedic rishi (sage) of Hinduism. He is described in the Rigveda as a teacher of divine knowledge, a mediator between men and gods, as well as stated in other hymns to be the first of Agni-devas (fire gods). .. In some manuscripts of Atharvaveda, the text is attributed to "Atharvangirasah", which is a compound of sage Atharvan and Angiras."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiras_(sage)
(Note: Angara is the common name for burning coal or spark in Hindi/Urdu)

For these reasons, I associate brahmins with the Indo-Europeans and not with Semite people and Jews.

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You didn't convince me.



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There are other people also whom I am not able to convince. I try.
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