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Old December 31st, 2017, 12:38 AM   #1

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hi, I just have a question , I do not want to enter in the racial thing between casts, but I always read that the lighter the skin the higher the caste in India , so why the Brahamin caste that I read is the higher caste is not respecting that pattern?
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Actually skin colour does not have anything to do with caste. Anyone who lived for some time in India will rather easily realise this fact. I would even say that in mainland India there are more fair skinned people among lower castes than higher castes.
The only exceptions are the Punjab and Kashmir region.
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That is a super-simplification, over-generalization. Fair and dark people are there in all castes. We are a very mixed people.
Furthermore, all Brahmins or Kshatriyas do not belong to one race. The Aryans and indigenous both were included in castes.
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Dark punjabi jat (Former Indian Cricketer Captain Kpil Dev), fair punjabi jat.
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Fair Iyer brahmin, dark Iyer brahmin (Mathematician Srinivas Ramanujam).

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hi, I just have a question , I do not want to enter in the racial thing between casts, but I always read that the lighter the skin the higher the caste in India , so why the Brahamin caste that I read is the higher caste is not respecting that pattern?
The general rule is: Higher the caste more the occurrence of lighter skin, compared to others of the same region. Brahmin caste have light and dark people, but they have more occurrences of lighter people than other castes. There are exceptions to this such as areas where people in general are more mixed.
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The general rule is: Higher the caste more the occurrence of lighter skin, compared to others of the same region. Brahmin caste have light and dark people, but they have more occurrences of lighter people than other castes. There are exceptions to this such as areas where people in general are more mixed.
Nope you are wrong. There is no correlation between skin colour and caste in most of india states. I have lived in many states.
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Many brahmins/casts of South India have more North Indian features and are fair. If you do not know bout that, then accept what we are telling you. Or are you so stooped in racism that you deny it?
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How someone gets in the Brahmin Caste?
And Ghandi what cast would be closer to ?
As for lighter skin on higher the caste is what I read here .

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/55532665.cms

https://www.deccanchronicle.com/life...in-colour.html

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10...4-007-4608-4_5

http://www.itechpost.com/articles/56...hand-study.htm

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Old December 31st, 2017, 07:32 AM   #8
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Lyer from Tamil and kerala... really ? he can not even pass in up as native and you are posting him as real Brahmins and kshatriyas of north ?

Brahmins of South India/Dravindia are as Brahmins as Pathans of India are Afghans.
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What do you think about non brahmin castes of tamil and kerala?
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well i am a Vedic Kshatriya from Indo-Aryan Tribe Puru. I have pale skin and Green eyes and i have no Dardic blood in me. almost everyone in my family have Pale skin and Amber to Blue eyes.

Genereally people of North West India (where Aryans settled in large numbrs and actually changed demography of the region) have large number of people with light eyes, Pale skin and Pure Indo-Aryan Features.

interestingly, even those who belong to humble caste generally have same facial features as Central Indians.

Aryans who migrated from other parts of India (outside of NW) have mixed a little bit thus look little different from us. but you can still find those people who are from higher caste who look like higher castes of North West India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puru_(Vedic_tribe)
Vedic Kshatriyas didn't survive long, and disappeared with time. May be that you like to be associated with vedic Indo-Aryans, leading to such claims and over exaggerations. Anyone can cook up Indo-Aryan lineages. Some Indians have a tendency to claim such things. Self hate and caste ridden mindset could be the reasons behind it. Green eyes and pale skin can mean too many things, and they are not as common as you imply, in NorthWest.

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How someone gets in the Brahmin Caste?
And Ghandi what cast would be closer to?
As for lighter skin on higher the caste is what I read here.
By birth. In Vedic/puranic times by study of scriptures and teaching, leading a pious life, not partaking non-vegetarian food and liquor, having sex relations only with legitimate wife or wives.
Gandhi denotes a trader class (Vaishyas).
That is a general view but there are many exceptions. We are a mixed people.
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