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Old January 3rd, 2018, 01:12 AM   #1

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How big was the Pala kingdom, really?


I'm asking this question becos all this while I was under the impression that Pala mostly ruled over the region of Bengal only. But then, I hv only recently found out that Pala dynasty under Devapala & Dharmapala actually extended to today's Pakistan.
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Old January 3rd, 2018, 05:25 AM   #2

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At times, it was huge.
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Pa...j8w3NL_Wdy4wM:
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Nowhere near as large as it is depicted on any popular maps. It is possible that the Palas may have launched some military expeditions that reached as far as modern-day Pakistan, but they certainly did not exercise any sort of stable authority over those distant regions.
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So what was their relationship with the Hindu Shahi kings, like Jayapala & Anandapala? Must hv been some close, kindred type of relationship, judging by the Pala brand in their names.
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Nowhere near as large as it is depicted on any popular maps. It is possible that the Palas may have launched some military expeditions that reached as far as modern-day Pakistan, but they certainly did not exercise any sort of stable authority over those distant regions.
But then, we'll never know for sure, really. Perhaps they followed the style of the Persians, exacting substantial annual tribute as a mark of vassalage & submission to their overlordship, but otherwise not doing too much interference at the local level.
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Or perhaps a Mrauk U type of subservience, when a declaration and an occasional present would suffice. There have been many overlordships like that in India. Mughal Emperor was considered Shah-e-Shahan when his influence did not extend beyond 20 miles of Delhi as indicated by the following proverb:

"Sultanat-e-Shah Alam, Az Dilli ta Palam" meaning
The kingdom of Shah Alam is from Delhi to Palam

Palm is a suburb of Delhi. Shah Alam means 'the Lord of the world'.
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Yep. Shah Alam or Alam Shah, depending on the grammar of the speaker. BTW, we hv a city named Shah Alam, in Malaysia, about twenty five miles or so from Kuala Lumpur. It is the capital city of Selangor state, it was initially established following the transformation of Kuala Lumpur into Federal Territory.
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