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Old August 3rd, 2010, 07:30 AM   #1

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anyone can list all of them?
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Old August 3rd, 2010, 07:54 AM   #2

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All I know are the Alani, Sarmatians and Roxolani. Well, I think they're all scythians. Oh and the Lazyges.
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Re: List of Scythian Tribes


I only know;
Parni(the one who became Parthian)
Saka Rauka(Scythian who take Bactria from Greeks)
Asiani(same as Saka Rauka)
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All I know are the Alani, Sarmatians and Roxolani. Well, I think they're all scythians. Oh and the Lazyges.
Sarmatians aren't really Scythians, they do get lumped in together.

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I only know;
Parni(the one who became Parthian)
Saka Rauka(Scythian who take Bactria from Greeks)
Asiani(same as Saka Rauka)
The Parni came from the Dahae and are also not really considered Scythian, but much like the Sarmatian shared a close relation.



I think the main problem is: what are Scythians? Cause the definition changed from time to time.
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Cause the definition changed from time to time.
Exactly; the Romans sometimes referred to the Goths and Heruli as Scythians.

I do have a list of proper Scythian tribes from Russia/the Ukraine, but it may take me a while to find it. I'll post it when I do.
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All I know are the Alani, Sarmatians and Roxolani. Well, I think they're all scythians. Oh and the Lazyges.
I thought that Alani and Roxolani are descendants or tribes of Sarmatians.

Could somebody elaborate on the relation between Scythians and Sarmatians?
I know they both were Iranian-language speakers and nomads and originate from the same bunch. However how and when certain Scythians became Sarmatians is unclear to me.
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There was never a single state amongst the groups labeled as Scythians, Sarmatians at a certain point in time simply became the most dominant confederacy in the region.
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There is bound to be much confusion about such questions, since the "Scythians" themselves recorded no histories, and, as described above, were perceived as different peoples by different observers at different times, which they in fact probably were.

I saw a wonderful exhibit of "Scythian" gold artifacts at the Nelson Gallery in Kansas City, Missouri, about eight years ago, including a video presentation describing chariots, horse burials, etc. (the stuff of the Indo-European heartland).
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Could somebody elaborate on the relation between Scythians and Sarmatians?
I know they both were Iranian-language speakers and nomads and originate from the same bunch. However how and when certain Scythians became Sarmatians is unclear to me.
I generally consider all the tribes that originated from the Russian steppe region to be Scythian, since they have a very similar culture and language. Though I could be wrong.

And the Sarmatian tribes probably originated as minor Scythian tribes before becoming the dominant power of the region.
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There is bound to be much confusion about such questions, since the "Scythians" themselves recorded no histories, and, as described above, were perceived as different peoples by different observers at different times, which they in fact probably were.

Interestingly though, they fought as one against Persians, when being invaded. They might have been divided in tribes, which united only when the need arose.

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I generally consider all the tribes that originated from the Russian steppe region to be Scythian, since they have a very similar culture and language.
Since their language belonged to the Iranian branch, their culture originated in northern Iran, I think.
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