Inside a country: India - Page 9 - Historum

Shaheen · May 29th, 2012, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 1991sudarshan

If you are well aware with the customs and few languages of India you can travel easily and communicate with people in Bagladesh, Pakistan & Afghanistan , Nepal, Bhutan, Srilanka and Malaysia

Pakistan & Afghanistan and North India have similar culture food dressing styles and you could not make out the difference between Pakistan and N. India Shops, dress, languages, etc are very similar

Sudarshan, Afghans and West Pakistanis (Pakhtuns, Hazaras, Balochis, Tajiks) have little in common with North Indians. The only real link would be the "Pathan" tribes that exist among Indian Muslims and who are descendents of Pakhtuns from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Otherwise knowing an Indian language wont get you anywhere in Afghanistan, where Pashto and Dari dominate. In West Pakistan due to the spread of Urdu throughout the country you could survive with knowledge of Urdu but still in the more remote parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa or Balochistan you would have to know the local languages (which are classified as "iranic" and have more in common with their northern and western neighbours, than they do with Indian languages. In fact the closest relative of Balochi is supposed to be the Kurdish language.).

Eastern Pakistanis (Punjabis, Sindhis, Sereikis) have more in common with North Indians but even then there are big differences. Taking one example the Sari is virtually non existant in Pakistan. Living here in the UK, being a Pakistani Punjabi, the Indians that i connect with the most are Indian Punjabis. A Bengali or an Assamese is as similar to me as a Tajik or Uzbek.

1991sudarshan · May 29th, 2012, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaheen

Sudarshan, Afghans and West Pakistanis (Pakhtuns, Hazaras, Balochis, Tajiks) have little in common with North Indians. The only real link would be the "Pathan" tribes that exist among Indian Muslims and who are descendents of Pakhtuns from Afghanistan and Pakistan. Otherwise knowing an Indian language wont get you anywhere in Afghanistan, where Pashto and Dari dominate. In West Pakistan due to the spread of Urdu throughout the country you could survive with knowledge of Urdu but still in the more remote parts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa or Balochistan you would have to know the local languages (which are classified as "iranic" and have more in common with their northern and western neighbours, than they do with Indian languages. In fact the closest relative of Balochi is supposed to be the Kurdish language.).

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Because the Pashtuns Balochis Punjabis Kashmiris ,etc were ruled by the Mogohuls and the formers also ruled by the persians and language of these people tend to have Persian loans words and so it makes some from either side of the border to understand some generic terms and words.

Lazyman · May 29th, 2012, 04:49 AM

You cannot understand Pashtun, it is not similiar to Urdu or Hindi .

Shaheen · May 29th, 2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 1991sudarshan

Because the Pashtuns Balochis Punjabis Kashmiris ,etc were ruled by the Mogohuls and the formers also ruled by the persians and language of these people tend to have Persian loans words and so it makes some from either side of the border to understand some generic terms and words.

Im sorry but knowing some words does not mean you can communicate easily with the local people. Dari(farsi)/Pashto are extremely different from Hindi. So are the people of Afghanistan and West Pakistan as compared to North Indians.

Lazyman · May 29th, 2012, 08:34 AM

Persian and Pashto speakers can converse in Urdu/Hindi, not the other way around :P .

1991sudarshan · May 29th, 2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaheen

Im sorry but knowing some words does not mean you can communicate easily with the local people. Dari(farsi)/Pashto are extremely different from Hindi. So are the people of Afghanistan and West Pakistan as compared to North Indians.

The Kite Runner and the Thousand splendid Suns deceived me to come to this conclusion

Lord Keviv · June 4th, 2012, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Imperial

This was long back. Well, now there are many more Indians here

I have been in Historum for long periods of time when only me and Rosi were the Indians. Well, Rosi was busy most of the time(luckily, now she aint

). And she participated in different kinda threads, unrelated to military and economic history...

And no offense, you and Sudarshan were just newcomers on the forum

and I have seen many many Indian newcomers who would leave after a few weeks. So I had a perception of me being the only proper Indian member here

But fortunately some have stayed on.

I joined before you

But, yes..I've been very less active !!

**The Imperial** · January 11th, 2013, 06:12 AM

Actually, communication is easier in Afghanistan if you have a fair knowledge of Urdu/Hindi.

**Fireatwill** · March 13th, 2013, 06:23 AM

India is famous for song and dance of bollywood but India also has produced one of the greatest film makers in history,

Satyajit_Ray

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The Influence of Satyajit Ray and an introduction to the film The Chess Players - YouTube