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Old February 4th, 2007, 12:52 AM   #1

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Korea's Beef with Japan


Korean's hatred of Japan.

Koreans have a historical beef with Japan that goes back over 500 years. It began in the 1500's whereby Japanese pirates would regularly raid the Korea's coasts(like vikings).
Then in 1592, the Japanese launched a full scale invasion of Korea in order to conquer the Ming Empire in China.(this was the Imjin Wars) The war ended in 1598 and completely destroyed the country, setting them back economically for several decades. At the end of the war, the Japanese stole many cultural artifacts and treasures that to this very day, they have yet to return. They also took many korean craftsmen as slaves back to Japan which helped the Japanese economically and hurt the Koreans.
In the late 19th century, Korea became the target of Japanese Imperialism. The Japanese began investing in Korea economically and started taking control of Korea's economy and government, eventually killing Korea's Queen. In 1894-1895 the Japanese fought the Qing Empire for dominance in Korea. The Japanese won. Then in 1904-1905 the Japanese fought the Russians for control of Korea. So Korea has been the battle ground for Japan for many years. In 1910 the Japanese formally annexed Korea. The Japanese attempted to erase the Korean language by teaching the Japanese language in all schools. All School Principals were Japanese. Many old Korean people today still speak Japanese because of this. Korea was economically exploited for the benefit of Japan from the late 19th century until 1945. Many Korean laborers were taken over to the Japanese home islands during WWII to work in factories. Many Korean soldiers were pressed into the Imperial Army to fight Japan's wars. Many of the famed Kamakazi Pilots were in fact, Koreans who were forced to crash into American ships.
And worst of all were the Korean sex slaves. Thousands of women who were forced into being sex slaves to service the Japanese soldiers on the front lines. These women would often be raped all day long and all night by Japanese soldiers and when they were no longer of use, they got a bullet to the head. At the end of the war most of them were murdered so that nobody would find out. Absolutely disgusting! To this day the Japanese government has not apologized about much of anything. There have been no reperations for the sex slaves. They don't even acknowledge that it happened.

And then there is the dispute between Japan and Korea about the tiny group of islands in the Sea of Japan that are occupied by Korea but claimed by Japan.
And there is also the whole dispute about the name of the Sea of Japan. The Koreans mantain that the Sea of Japan is actually called the Eastern Sea but the Japanese mantain that it is the Sea of Japan.

So that is why the Koreans hate the Japanese.
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this is well put. we don't know as much about what the japanese did as we do about the germans. but we should. they both committed atrocities.
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For Japan the region (China, Korea, Philippines, e.t.c) is "vital space", as their island has no resources (oil, coal, iron), Japan was forced to seek them elsewhere, if we add that Korea and China had many years internal problems thus making them vulnerable to invasion then we have the reason why Japan attacked.
Unfortunately for them the Koreans proved great inventors and stalwart warriors.
One question how much true is the game "Age of Kings" about Korean history?
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I have a question also, more out of curiosity than anything.
Bearing in mind that Japan is an island and therefore would have been colonised by the mainland at some point in her history. Is possible and maybe even probable, that The Japonese people originate from Korea?
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I have a question also, more out of curiosity than anything.
Bearing in mind that Japan is an island and therefore would have been colonised by the mainland at some point in her history. Is possible and maybe even probable, that The Japonese people originate from Korea?
I'm glad you asked that question. It is a very controversial question too, because no Japanese person wants to admit that they are in fact Korean. Specialists will debate it but I have my own opinion.

As someone who can speak both Japanese and Korean, I think that it's very interesting how the two languages are quite similar in many ways. They are not intelligible to one another but both are agglutinative languages, meaning that they stick words together to modify verbs. Both languages are also subject object verb(I the ball throw) order languages, which I believe is significant because Mandarin Chinese is Subject Verb Object(I throw the ball). Both languages only require a verb for a grammatically correct statement, and many of their words are similar, such as, both languages use San as their word for mountain, the Koreans say Kyedan for stairs, the Japanese say Kaidan. There are many more examples of similar words but I won't get into all of them. Both of them also use honorifics in their language which means you speak differently when talking to a socially superior person, but Mandarin Chinese has this too, so that doesn't prove anything. The similarities in Korean and Japanese could be a result of close cultural contact for thousands of years of it could be that the Japanese are Koreanish people. The History of Korea goes back much further than Japan's history. Some say that the Japanese are from a long lost kingdom on the Korean peninsula from thousands of years ago.

It is also thought that the Japanese are evolved from from several thousand people sent to the islands by one of China's early emperors. I don't believe that theory.

The question of whether Korean and Japanese people are of the same lineage is one that I will be looking into for many years because I am quite curious myself.
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For Japan the region (China, Korea, Philippines, e.t.c) is "vital space", as their island has no resources (oil, coal, iron), Japan was forced to seek them elsewhere, if we add that Korea and China had many years internal problems thus making them vulnerable to invasion then we have the reason why Japan attacked.
Unfortunately for them the Koreans proved great inventors and stalwart warriors.
One question how much true is the game "Age of Kings" about Korean history?
I used to play that game a lot. If your referring to Korea's special unit, the "Turtle Ship," then yes it is accurate. The Koreans were the first nation to use iron clad warships, equipped with cannons. They were widely used during the Imjin Wars against Japan during the 1590's. Many historians mistakenly think that the American Civil War was the first time in world history that Iron Clad ships were used.
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I'm glad you asked that question. It is a very controversial question too, because no Japanese person wants to admit that they are in fact Korean. Specialists will debate it but I have my own opinion.

As someone who can speak both Japanese and Korean, I think that it's very interesting how the two languages are quite similar in many ways. They are not intelligible to one another but both are agglutinative languages, meaning that they stick words together to modify verbs. Both languages are also subject object verb(I the ball throw) order languages, which I believe is significant because Mandarin Chinese is Subject Verb Object(I throw the ball). Both languages only require a verb for a grammatically correct statement, and many of their words are similar, such as, both languages use San as their word for mountain, the Koreans say Kyedan for stairs, the Japanese say Kaidan. There are many more examples of similar words but I won't get into all of them. Both of them also use honorifics in their language which means you speak differently when talking to a socially superior person, but Mandarin Chinese has this too, so that doesn't prove anything. The similarities in Korean and Japanese could be a result of close cultural contact for thousands of years of it could be that the Japanese are Koreanish people. The History of Korea goes back much further than Japan's history. Some say that the Japanese are from a long lost kingdom on the Korean peninsula from thousands of years ago.

It is also thought that the Japanese are evolved from from several thousand people sent to the islands by one of China's early emperors. I don't believe that theory.

The question of whether Korean and Japanese people are of the same lineage is one that I will be looking into for many years because I am quite curious myself.
I have a chinese friend who believes an early emperor sent several thousand
people to the islands, but I am inclined towards the view that the Japonese
originate from Korea. Thank you for your reply
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For Japan the region (China, Korea, Philippines, e.t.c) is "vital space", as their island has no resources (oil, coal, iron), Japan was forced to seek them elsewhere, if we add that Korea and China had many years internal problems thus making them vulnerable to invasion then we have the reason why Japan attacked.
Unfortunately for them the Koreans proved great inventors and stalwart warriors.
One question how much true is the game "Age of Kings" about Korean history?
I also like Age of Kings and also Shogan Total War
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I have a chinese friend who believes an early emperor sent several thousand
people to the islands, but I am inclined towards the view that the Japonese
originate from Korea. Thank you for your reply
If that were true, then the Japanese would look Chinese and speak Chinese but they don't. Thus I don't believe the theory.
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I have a question also, more out of curiosity than anything.
Bearing in mind that Japan is an island and therefore would have been colonised by the mainland at some point in her history. Is possible and maybe even probable, that The Japonese people originate from Korea?
The Japanese have Chinese origin.
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