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Old September 6th, 2011, 02:08 AM   #1
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Pan-Turkism. Utopia?


Pan-Turkism is a political movement started more than 100 years ago aiming to unite the various Turkic peoples into a modern political state.

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Countries

Azerbaijan (Azeri)
Cyprus (Turkish)
Kazakhstan (Kazakh)
Kyrgyzstan (Kyrgyz)
Turkey (Turkish)
Turkmenistan (Turkmen)
Uzbekistan (Uzbek)

Autonomous regions with an Turkic language

Moldova
- Territorial Autonomous Unit of Gagauzia (Gagauz Turkish)
Mongolia
- Bayan Olgiy (Kazakh)
People's Republic of China
- Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (Uyghur)
- Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture (Kazakh)
- Barkol Kazakh Autonomous County (Kazakh)
- Mori Kazakh Autonomous County (Kazakh)
- Aksai Kazakh Autonomous County (Kazakh)
- Kizilsu Kirghiz Autonomous Prefecture (Kyrgyz)
- Sunan Yugur Autonomous County (Western Yugur)
- Xunhua Salar Autonomous County (Salar)
- Jishishan Bonan, Dongxiang and Salar Autonomous County (Salar)
Russian Federation
- Altai Republic (Altay)
- Dagestan Republic (Azeri)
- Dagestan Republic (Nogay)
- Dagestan Republic (Kumyck)
- Republic of Bashkortostan (Bashkir)
- Chuvash Republic (Chuvash)
- Kabardino-Balkar Republic (Karachay-Balkar
- Karachay-Cherkess Republic (Karachay-Balkar)
- Republic of Khakassia (Khakas)
- Sakha Republic (Sakha)
- Tatarstan (Tatar)
- Tyva Republic (Tuvan)
Uzbekistan
- Karakalpakstan (Karakalpak)
Ukraine
- Crimea (Crimean Tatars)
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I see several reasons making this idea utopian:

Political: China, Russia, Ukraine and others are not going to give their regions to Turkey that officially supports this idea.
Newly independent Central Asia countries are inclined either to the integration with Russia or to the isolationism.

Religious: Though the majority of Turan people are Muslims, there are also Christians (Chuvash, Khakas), Shamanists (Sakha) and Buddhists (Tuvans)

Cultural: Lifestyles (even in former Soviet Union countries) differs greatly

But the main factor (I think) is that Pan-Turkism nowadays is popular in Turkey and Azerbaijan only.
I have never been to China and Cyprus, but in the other regions majority of people I met are not excited with this idea.

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It seems Utopia now. I don't know in the future.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 05:11 AM   #3
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I have met a lot Turkish people who likes to claim Turkic = Turkish. That is like saying that Chinese and Japanese are the same people because they are all East Asians. It is a stupid idea really.
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Well the EU was once a dream too wasnt it? Currently i dont think there is any chance of it happening anytime soon but nothing can be said about the future. Already there are several organisations that can act as a framework for any future union e.g.

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I tried asking this type of question before if anyone is interested http://www.historum.com/speculative-...s-uniting.html
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I tried asking this type of question before if anyone is interested http://www.historum.com/speculative-...s-uniting.html
Pan-people on Pangaea
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Pan-turkism sounds like a utopia to my ears... I don't see this happening in this lifetime.
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Pan-people on Pangaea
Tongue twister.
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Pan-people on Pangaea


Given enough time (and with my limited understanding of plate tectonics) we could form the Pan-Peoples Principality of Pangaea.
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*Pan-Turkism is very popular in Azerbaijan,Turkey and Turkmenistan they seem themselves as %100 turkic

*uzbeks and kyrgyz people don't like this idea because there are some economical ethnic crisis problems between them in 2010

*%60 of muslim kazakhs accept that idea but orthodox kazakhs seem themselves as slavic( asian eyes slavic :P)

*at the end if we have to speak about autonomous or federal project republics with turkic population, they are influencing by other countries(mostly russia) in these year they start to know their ancestry so they cannot support this idea
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