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Old December 7th, 2011, 07:47 AM   #1

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Soga no Iname was introduced to the Yamato court and He was from Paekche of the ancient Korea. History says that he got daughters [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soga_no_Kitashihime"]Soga no Kitashihime[/ame] and Soga no Oanegimi, to Emperor Kimmei. It is clear that soga no Iname was a Korean descendant and so were his daughter. How come the Japanese Imperial family claim that they are pure blooded Japanese if theirs ancestors [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Yomei"]Emperor Yōmei[/ame], [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Sushun"]Emperor Sushun[/ame] and [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Suiko"]Empress Suiko[/ame] were born to korean mothers Soga no Kitashihime, soga no Oanegimi and the Emporere Kimmei.
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Soga no Iname was introduced to the Yamato court and He was from Paekche of the ancient Korea. History says that he got daughters Soga no Kitashihime and Soga no Oanegimi, to Emperor Kimmei. It is clear that soga no Iname was a Korean descendant and so were his daughter. How come the Japanese Imperial family claim that they are pure blooded Japanese if theirs ancestors Emperor Yōmei, Emperor Sushun and Empress Suiko were born to korean mothers Soga no Kitashihime, soga no Oanegimi and the Emporere Kimmei.
What source do you have that says Soga no Iname was from Paekche?

His grandmother was from Goguryeo, but I don't see anything that says he himself was from a foreign country. He helped to introduce Buddhism from Paekche to the Yamato court. Perhaps you are getting confused by this sentence in the Wikipedia article:

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Soga no Iname is also known for his early support of Buddhism which, according to the Nihon Shoki, was introduced to the Yamato court from Paekche in 552.
It was Buddhism that was introduced, not Soga no Iname himself.
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What source do you have that says Soga no Iname was from Paekche?

His grandmother was from Goguryeo, but I don't see anything that says he himself was from a foreign country. He helped to introduce Buddhism from Paekche to the Yamato court. Perhaps you are getting confused by this sentence in the Wikipedia article:



It was Buddhism that was introduced, not Soga no Iname himself.
But according the authors of the Book "The Cambridge History of Japan" , the soga clan is in not a native one. In fact, in many places it has been mentioned that soga clan is a foreign clan. Since Soga no Iname is a foreigner, he can not become the emperor of Japan. Hence he got this two daughter married to Emperor Kimmei and He made the Emperor puppet of him and there by making him a Emperor behind the screens.

From where did you come to know the fact that Soga no Iname's grandmother is from Goguryeo?

Check this book

http://books.google.com/books?ie=UTF...20clan&f=false

See Page no. 30 "The century of Reform" paragraph

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But according the authors of the Book "The Cambridge History of Japan" , the soga clan is in not a native one. In fact, in many places it has been mentioned that soga clan is a foreign clan. Since Soga no Iname is a foreigner, he can not become the emperor of Japan. Hence he got this two daughter married to Emperor Kimmei and He made the Emperor puppet of him and there by making him a Emperor behind the screens.

From where did you come to know the fact that Soga no Iname's grandmother is from Goguryeo?

Check this book

The Cambridge History of Japan ... - Google Books

See Page no. 30 "The century of Reform" paragraph
I happen to have the Cambridge History of Japan with me, so I will read the pages you mention.
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I happen to have the Cambridge History of Japan with me, so I will read the pages you mention.
Could you please tell me from where did you come to know that Soga no Iname's Grand mother was from Goguryeo?
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