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Old January 26th, 2012, 02:05 AM   #1

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I have come across about the trade relationship between the ancient Tamils and the Romans and one can find lot of Roman coins of the ancient day in Tamil Nadu. My question is ,did the tamils trade with the Greeks? are there any Historical records revealing more about their trade relations ?
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I have come across about the trade relationship between the ancient Tamils and the Romans and one can find lot of Roman coins of the ancient day in Tamil Nadu. My question is ,did the tamils trade with the Greeks? are there any Historical records revealing more about their trade relations ?
There are no evidence available that Tamils had the trade relations with Greeks.On the contrary only Greeks invaded India (King Alexander the great)

Tamils had trade relations with Rome, Persia, Ethioppia and even also with King Solomon(king of Israel). For this we have proof of Sangam Literature and also proof can be given from Holy Bible
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There are no evidence available that Tamils had the trade relations with Greeks.On the contrary only Greeks invaded India (King Alexander the great)

Tamils had trade relations with Rome, Persia, Ethioppia and even also with King Solomon(king of Israel). For this we have proof of Sangam Literature and also proof can be given from Holy Bible

Could you please tell the verses from of Holy Bible that tell about tamils and which sangam literature tell about Romans Persians ,etc ??
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That information is wrong unmai53, since Ptolemaic Egypt fueled in purpose the exploration of Indic Ocean, and stablished trade with India http://faculty.fairfield.edu/gruffin...Sidebotham.PDF. In fact, they founded ports in the Read Sea in order to promote trade in the ocean.

P.164 http://books.google.es/books?id=ZTNT...0india&f=false

During Roman times, the "Roman" trade with India was actually greek trade. Geographical works such as "Peryplus of the Erythrean Sea" probably was the navigation chart of a Greek living in Egypt.
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As I explained a million times. One should not differentiate between Roman and Greek in these matters. If it was Roman trade it was Greek trade, specially in the Hellenic eastern half of the empire.
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As I explained a million times. One should not differentiate between Roman and Greek in these matters. If it was Roman trade it was Greek trade, specially in the Hellenic eastern half of the empire.

Got it. did the greek trade with Tamils before Roman expansion? That is my question.
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There are no evidence available that Tamils had the trade relations with Greeks.On the contrary only Greeks invaded India (King Alexander the great)

Tamils had trade relations with Rome, Persia, Ethioppia and even also with King Solomon(king of Israel). For this we have proof of Sangam Literature and also proof can be given from Holy Bible
Hi, Yesterday I have given a wrong statement that Tamils had trade relations only with romans not with greeks. Very sorry. The correct statement is Tamils had trade relations with both Romans and Greeks and also with Syrians & Jews. In Indian history Romans, greeks,jews and Syrians were called in the name of "Yavanar". In Sangam Literature you might have read about Yavanars. As Guaporense, Frank81 said both Romans and greeks should not be differentiate in this matter.

In Holy Bible please refer old testament Ikings 10: 22-( The king i.e Solomon had a fleet of trading ships of Hiram. Once every three years it returned carrying gold, silver, and ivory, and apes and peacocks).In ancient India Ivory and peacock was available only in southern part of India that is Tamil region.

Moreover in Silapathigaram a place called POOMBUHAR near present Pondicherry was a major sea port which anchored ships from Rome and greece.Now this sea port is no more because of sea errosion took place prior to III tamilsangam i.e kadaisangam
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There are no evidence available that Tamils had the trade relations with Greeks.On the contrary only Greeks invaded India (King Alexander the great)
Alexander invaded modern-day Pakistan. He didnt advance beyond the Jhelum.

But Greek influence on that area was tremendous, which later trickled down to the rest of India.

I dont think the Greek and the Tamil had any trade connections. No I dont think so. Greek did not send ships this far, and the Greeks did not advance this far inland into India.

But I think the Greek coins are from the Indo-Greek kingdoms that were established in north India for about 2 centuries. they might have traveled through domestic trade to TN.

On the other hand, in later times, India was well connected to the Roman world.....

http://www.historum.com/asian-histor...ade-india.html
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As I explained a million times. One should not differentiate between Roman and Greek in these matters. If it was Roman trade it was Greek trade, specially in the Hellenic eastern half of the empire.
Pardon me, but arent the Greeks and Romans completely different?!

The Greeks never had the ability nor the resources to trade as far as the Tamil regions.

The Romans on the other hand were well equipped. Also, the Greek city states were not as industrial as the Roman Empire.

Just because the Romans had 'Hellenistic' influence doesnt mean that Roman trade is equal to Greek trade. The dynamics are completely different.
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The correct statement is Tamils had trade relations with both Romans and Greeks and also with Syrians & Jews. In Indian history Romans, greeks,jews and Syrians were called in the name of "Yavanar". In Sangam Literature you might have read about Yavanars.
Correct. But the Greeks you refer to are not the same Greeks Sudarshan is asking about.

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In Holy Bible please refer old testament Ikings 10: 22-( The king i.e Solomon had a fleet of trading ships of Hiram. Once every three years it returned carrying gold, silver, and ivory, and apes and peacocks).In ancient India Ivory and peacock was available only in southern part of India that is Tamil region.
Correct. But the Bible came much much later than the Greeks.
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