1991sudarshan

The Great vedic language Sanskrit, influenced many languages to the greatest extant in the history. The Dravidian languages are not a exception and they were once highly influenced by Sanskrit and even today words of Sanskrit origin remain in Tamil. The other Dravidian languages (Kannada, Telugu and Malayalam) words are predominantly of Sanskrit Origin. The sanskrit words in Tamil were rejected and was not used thanks to the Dravidian movement.

But Certain grammatical terms and lexicon in Tamil tends be Sanskrit origin. My question is , when did this sanskritization process start? If we take aryan invasion theory as correct, then there is no further point in discussing, but many believe that "Aryan Discrete Migration theory" sounds sensible.

The Tamilians proudly say that they has their own culture called "the sangam culture" ( the culture portrayed in the sangam literature), the culture which is claimed to be very different from that of the Aryan culture and there existed no caste system in it. But the fact is, the word "sangam" is of sanskrit origin. Did the sanskritization process start then or before that?. If we take Aryan Invasion theory, the due to the invasion and subjugation the native people who have been introduced to writing system and the Tamil literature would have started much more earlier. ???

My second question is When was the writing system start in sanskrit language? Rig Veda the oldest vedic literature was put into books not until the Guptas
Rigveda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Imperial

Sanskritization is similar to today's Englishization

1991sudarshan

Dai.....

Give Historical facts, resources,etc da.

koala

Is the (vedic) sanskrit a language of a certain tribe that become prevalent by spreading their tongues ? Do you suppose?

The Imperial

My statement doesn't need any historical facts or resources. What I presented is an abstract concept....a thought......not a hard fact which needs hard evidence.

1991sudarshan

That is what they teach in Indian schools. Many people are satisfied with the mis-informed historical facts.

Illumanation

According to the Vedic epics, this sanskritization first started when the rishi Agastya went into the south to promote the Vedic traditions (yagna, fire ritual, Vedanta.etc). The dravid people already practised what we would call; the hindu religion, and even their own rendition of the Vedas. They were even related to the Aryan people. But they were not familiar with the sanskrit language or Vedic yagna. However, the Rishi ended up being engulfed by the traditions that the Dravids had developed according to their Vedas and other texts that are lost to us today. These traditions include lingam worship, strict vegetarianism (only the Brahmin caste was vegetarian in Vedic society, Kshyatras ate meat), equality of caste. So he incorporated these elements into the the traditions and philosophies of the Rishis.

However the rules of caste and such probably came (according to the epics), during the reign of Lord Bharata : Bharata (emperor) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So south India has been "Aryan" since the conception of Aryatvarsh first emerged.

1991sudarshan

Many Tamil scholars say that Sage Agastya wrote a book on Tamil Grammar and Tholkapiya wrote a book on tamil grammar with sage Agastya's book as grammar. But there is no trace of sage Agastya's Grammar book

Illumanation

Really? I've never heard that. If it's true, perhaps the dravids influenced the Vedic people more than they were influenced by them?! Perhaps the apparent influence of Sanskrit on Tamil is really the other way round, with the Dravids as the first founders of Vedic civilization.

In fact, isn't Agatya Rishi classified as a mythological character since he lived during the Treta Yuga. I wrote a thread on this called "The history of the Vedic" and now I am confused: do modern academics believe personalities like Rama and Krishna to be real, and if they don't, why are the epics used as historical sources.

1991sudarshan

They also say that sage agastia is so short that he had the height of Human Thumb