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Old November 12th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #41
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It is actually clear that the bible heavily borrowed from Indo-Iranian mytholgies(and also from others),
I even had that topic in Religious Studies and wrote an exam about it.
Old Indian Epics and other writings certainly did not borrow from the bible, at least not to an recognisable amount.
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It is actually clear that the bible heavily borrowed from Indo-Iranian mytholgies(and also from others),
I even had that topic in Religious Studies and wrote an exam about it.
Old Indian Epics and other writings certainly did not borrow from the bible, at least not to an recognisable amount.
When I glanced through the Old Testament about 2 decades back I noticed some similarities between the rituals of Judaism and Hinduism. Can't recall them now.

If there were exchanges in the antiquity they would have been both ways. I'd like to know what makes you think it was just a one way street.

Regarding the population movements from South Asia to West Asia and vice-versa it seems population genetics does not have a simple answer - maybe coz the movements were not one way.
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When I glanced through the Old Testament about 2 decades back I noticed some similarities between the rituals of Judaism and Hinduism. Can't recall them now.

If there were exchanges in the antiquity they would have been both ways. I'd like to know what makes you think it was just a one way street.

Regarding the population movements from South Asia to West Asia and vice-versa it seems population genetics does not have a simple answer - maybe coz the movements were not one way.
I will dig up that stuff from back then, but this is what I can already say: do not forget that movement of Indo-Iranians came out of the(north-)west, and a lot of the borrowing find paralells in the Avesta. In order to have an significant amount of influence, there would have to be a significant influx from Indo-Iranians migrating back to the east, which is not very likely.
There are also no to very few motives transpanted from Levantine religions to Indo-Iranian religions prior to a certain time.
The Bible itself is an amalgam of a lot of different influences, but more on that later.
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Question Indraprastha - IVC city?


According to Mahabharat, Pandavas established the Indraprastha city (Present day Delhi) near the banks of the Yamuna. The area was covered by the forest known as Khandav forest. They cleared the forest and established a prosporous city.

Now recently I came accross these pictures of the Indraprastha city on the net.

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From the photograph it seems more or less similar to the cities of IVC.

How much authentic these pictures are? Are they really made according to the description given in Mahabharata? or are they made created randomly by someone?

IF so is it possible that Indraprastha might have any connection with IVC?
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It is actually clear that the bible heavily borrowed from Indo-Iranian mytholgies(and also from others),
I even had that topic in Religious Studies and wrote an exam about it.
Old Indian Epics and other writings certainly did not borrow from the bible, at least not to an recognisable amount.
can not be. Most of the events that of Indian epics is the replica of Bible. For an example Nova's great flood is Matsya Purana in Indian epic, Story of Job is Harichandra purana in Indian epic, Moses life little bit similar to Karnan the mahabartah charactor etc etc.

The purana and ithihas period is only in 2nd Century A.D and the bible events are much much earlier to this. You decide yourself which is older whether is it bible events or Indian epics?
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can not be. Most of the events that of Indian epics is the replica of Bible. For an example Nova's great flood is Matsya Purana in Indian epic, Story of Job is Harichandra purana in Indian epic, Moses life little bit similar to Karnan the mahabartah charactor etc etc.

The purana and ithihas period is only in 2nd Century A.D and the bible events are much much earlier to this. You decide yourself which is older whether is it bible events or Indian epics?
There you go Again. Please start you own thread giving proofs that Christianity predates Hindusim and the interaction between the two religions before 200BC and please provide facts for assumptions that Vedas and Upanishads were ultimately derived from which ever Christian sect Bible or Hebrew Bible.
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According to Mahabharat, Pandavas established the Indraprastha city (Present day Delhi) near the banks of the Yamuna. The area was covered by the forest known as Khandav forest. They cleared the forest and established a prosporous city.

Now recently I came accross these pictures of the Indraprastha city on the net.

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.


From the photograph it seems more or less similar to the cities of IVC.

How much authentic these pictures are? Are they really made according to the description given in Mahabharata? or are they made created randomly by someone?

IF so is it possible that Indraprastha might have any connection with IVC?
Nice
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There you go Again. Please start you own thread giving proofs that Christianity predates Hindusim and the interaction between the two religions before 200BC and please provide facts for assumptions that Vedas and Upanishads were ultimately derived from which ever Christian sect Bible or Hebrew Bible.
sounds better . I request unmai to do that as it would be an interesting one [ if there are substantial proofs]
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There you go Again. Please start you own thread giving proofs that Christianity predates Hindusim and the interaction between the two religions before 200BC and please provide facts for assumptions that Vedas and Upanishads were ultimately derived from which ever Christian sect Bible or Hebrew Bible.
please wait for some more days.
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According to Mahabharat, Pandavas established the Indraprastha city (Present day Delhi) near the banks of the Yamuna. The area was covered by the forest known as Khandav forest. They cleared the forest and established a prosporous city.

Now recently I came accross these pictures of the Indraprastha city on the net.

Click the image to open in full size.

Click the image to open in full size.


From the photograph it seems more or less similar to the cities of IVC.

How much authentic these pictures are? Are they really made according to the description given in Mahabharata? or are they made created randomly by someone?

IF so is it possible that Indraprastha might have any connection with IVC?
Problem is, I have a sneaking suspicion that this may have been drawn using the Indus Valley as a reference...
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