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Old April 18th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #1

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Are there any talks about the reconstruction of the famous Rashomon gate of Heian Kyo (Kyoto) ?

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Old April 19th, 2012, 01:08 AM   #2

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I don't know exactly it really means the city wall or just the palace wall. It seems necessary to surround more outer defensive wall.

1) So, I wonder if Rashōmon (羅城門, Rajōmon) or Rashōmon, (羅生門) is the same with Suzakumon (朱雀門) or what relation and difference lies between them.

2) Watanabe's legend eradicating some monsters would be a kinds like Greek Theseus. I read those thing in NihonShoki, on which a formal ancient historian had scarcely recorded in more Confucianalized Korea. I think the monster is a remain of priest-king who toppled or resigned under the advent of new power pressure. As I know, Japanese shrines were freqeuently dedicated to those monsters with a lot of memorials and numerous pages of documents. So they have so many gods.
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The name "Rajomon" was used for the southern city gates in both Kyoto and Nara. It lay at the southern end of the main avenue, known as the Suzaku avenue, and the Suzakumon lay at the northern end.

The problem is that no one actually knows what either the Suzakumon or the Rajomon looked like. The reconstruction of the Suzakumon in Nara is just a guess.

In practise, there is no room to reconstruct the gate. The location of the gate lies smack in the middle of an urban area.

As for the legend of Watanabe no Tsuna, its origins probably lie in the bandit gangs that terrorised the southern end of Kyoto during that era. The south and west of the city was gradually falling into disuse and the surrounding marshy area had become home to various akuto groups. Minamoto no Yorimitsu and his men were charged with clearing them out, and names such as Shuten Douji, Ibaraki Douji and Kidoumaru, who were probably bandit leaders, have passed into legend as demons.

Ibaraki Douji, the monster defeated by Watanabe no Tsuna would not have been a "priest king", since Watanabe lived in the 10th-11th century, by which time the Imperial system had been firmly established around Kyoto.
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Are there any talks about the reconstruction of the famous Rashomon gate of Heian Kyo (Kyoto) ?

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