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June 10th, 2012, 05:09 AM
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#1 | | Academician
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 78 | MIddle kingdom fallen over?
Given the nature of the Emperor model that the Chinese have been following for so long--would it be more beneficial in the long run for the ruling party in China to declare an emperor? That is, do you think Chinese morality is strongly linked to the Emperor model and its loss is effecting people morally, currently in china?
If An Emperor/Empress was declared, would he or She, adopt Taoism, or Buddhism, or both/neither? Which would the people prefer?
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June 10th, 2012, 07:37 AM
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#2 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2011 From: Place where French and British Fought and the French won Posts: 1,388 | Quote:
Originally Posted by hob Given the nature of the Emperor model that the Chinese have been following for so long--would it be more beneficial in the long run for the ruling party in China to declare an emperor? That is, do you think Chinese morality is strongly linked to the Emperor model and its loss is effecting people morally, currently in china?
If An Emperor/Empress was declared, would he or She, adopt Taoism, or Buddhism, or both/neither? Which would the people prefer? | Ruling party of China to declare an Emperor in China ? It is highly impossible . Who will be the contender for the throne ?
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June 10th, 2012, 10:17 AM
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#3 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2011 From: Place where French and British Fought and the French won Posts: 1,388 |
According to the PRC constitution , the people of royal bloodline are considered to be ordinary citizen.
The Last emperor Puyi led a simple life as an editor of a news paper and he wrote a state sanctioned book about his life Puyi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
His brother Pu ren claimed for the copy right of his brothers image that was displayed in the forbidden kingdom and he claimed compensation. the court outrightly dismissed his plea. People's Daily Online -- Brother of China's last emperor loses lawsuit for image rights | | |
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June 10th, 2012, 02:03 PM
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#4 | | Academician
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 78 |
Technically speaking the current ruling party has not attained power any differently from their predecessors if we follow the history of the 'mandate of heaven' ...
They already are the Emperors of China, I'm asking if it shouldn't become formal. After all, the system has served them for a good percentage of their existence as a society.
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June 10th, 2012, 02:59 PM
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#5 | | Historian
Joined: Apr 2010 From: In the Western Hemisphere Posts: 3,552 | Quote:
Originally Posted by hob Technically speaking the current ruling party has not attained power any differently from their predecessors if we follow the history of the 'mandate of heaven' ...
They already are the Emperors of China, I'm asking if it shouldn't become formal. After all, the system has served them for a good percentage of their existence as a society. | If the Koumingtang had retained control over China? Possibly. Not likely, but it would not be completely without the realm of possibility especially without a cultural revolution.
Post-Cultural Revolution is a definite no without some country and society shattering event.
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June 10th, 2012, 03:22 PM
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#6 | | Revisionist
Joined: Nov 2011 From: Closer to Calais than to Birmingham Posts: 3,453 | Quote:
Originally Posted by scholar If the Koumingtang had retained control over China? Possibly. Not likely, but it would not be completely without the realm of possibility especially without a cultural revolution.
Post-Cultural Revolution is a definite no without some country and society shattering event. | Surely it was the Kuomintang that deposed Pu Yi in 1910 an the usurper Yuan in 1916? They were rapidly Republican and Nationalist.
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June 10th, 2012, 03:45 PM
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#7 | | Historian
Joined: Jan 2011 From: Delaware & Pennsylvania Posts: 1,188 |
Do you think China would ever establish something like, having an emperor but with no power? Do you get what I mean? :P
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June 10th, 2012, 06:15 PM
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#8 | | Scholar
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 964 |
Short answer, no , has been tried at least twice after the Republic was formed and neither time lasted even 2 month before failing. Chinese emperor were not the same as say.. Japanese onces, where there's a long legacy of them being figureheads and have continued through many centuries in being a single family, or like England where there was a gradual process of de-powering the monarchy, if anything chinese history is the exact opposite, where it changed between many family and the entire course of history was one of increased power concenteration to the throne.
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June 10th, 2012, 10:41 PM
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#9 | | Historian
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 2,960 | Quote: |
the court outrightly dismissed his plea.
| Possibly because The PRC did not originally recognise intellectual property rights ,although this is slowly[allegedly] changing due to international pressure.
I saw Pu Yi's his 'autobiography' on sale everywhere when I visited mainland China in 1985. In several volumes,and very cheap. I chose not to buy it because I thought that being so freely available mean it was probably mostly confessional propaganda.
Pu Yi worked in the Beijing botanical gardens until 1964 when he became a literary editor of a party magazine, a position he held until his death in 1967.
Athough beautiful to look at,I suspect the film "The Last Emperor" could be more accurate.
Trivia; during the cultural revolution,the PRC government hid and protected Pu Yi lest he be killed by the Red Guard.
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June 10th, 2012, 11:17 PM
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#10 | | Historian
Joined: Jun 2011 From: Place where French and British Fought and the French won Posts: 1,388 |
[QUOTE=bunyip;1077015
Trivia; during the cultural revolution,the PRC government hid and protected Pu Yi lest he be killed by the Red Guard.[/QUOTE]
Why would they protect him ? PRC youth wing is Red Guards . isn't?
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