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Old July 17th, 2012, 09:04 AM   #1
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Facial reconstruction of Jomon and Emishi


For those of who you don't know this, Jomon and Emishi were ancient ethnic group of Japan, both of them were conquered and later assimilated by Yayoi, those who didn't mix much became the modern Ainu. Modern Japanese and European anthropologist and scientist concluded Ainu and Jomon are actually what proto-mongoloid looked like, their genetics and skulls have no similarity to Caucasoid only their cranial facial appears like Caucasian, they have more in common with Amerindians than to any Europeans, Australoids, Melanesian ect

Proto-mongoloid = no East Asian appearance
Neo-mongoloid = evolved from proto-mongoloid due to adaption of the cold during the ice age.
Japanese = Neo-mongoloid with little to some proto-mongoloid admixture.

Japanese have 14% Jomon mtDNA + 36% Jomon Y-DNA
Okinawans have 60% Jomon Y-DNA + 30% Jomon mtDNA

Facial reconstruction of Jomon

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Facial reconstruction of Emishi
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Portrait of Emishi dating back in the year 1324 AD.

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An recontruction of Jomon and Yayoi
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Native Americans are also proto-mongoloid, but Eskimo, Inuit and some aboriginal Indian population are neo-mongoloid people like Chinese, Korean, Mongolian, Japanese.

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Margaret Sleeboom-Faulkner of the Department of Anthropology at the University of Sussex said Kanzō Umehara considered the Ainu and Ryukyuans to have "preserved their proto-Mongoloid traits".[52]"

" Mark J. Hudson Professor of Anthropology at Nishikyushu University, Kanzaki, Saga, Japan, said Japan was settled by a "Proto-Mongoloid" population in the "Pleistocene" who became the "Jōmon" and their features can be seen in the "Ainu" and "Okinawan" people.[53] Hudson said that, later, during the "Yayoi period", the "Neo-Mongoloid" type entered Japan.[53] Hudson said "genetically" Japanese people are "primarily" Neo-Mongoloid with Proto-Mongoloid "admixture".[53] "


Ameridians with Proto-mongoloid traits

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" Based on the studies of cranial and dental features, the Jomon population was Archaic Mongoloids, which was not adapted to the cold environment. The Ainu also, Hanihara states, belong to the Archaic Mongoloids, and they came to Japan "

"The Jomon and Ainu human remains share similarities (Ukmchara and Hanihara 1982). The characteristics of Ainu teeth show that they are Mongoloids (Hanihara 1979) "


Genetic link between Asians and native Americans... [Hum Immunol. 2001] - PubMed - NCBI

Genetic link between Asians and native Americans: evidence from HLA genes and haplotypes.

We have been studying polymorphisms of HLA class I and II genes in East Asians including Buryat in Siberia, Mongolian, Han Chinese, Man Chinese, Korean Chinese, South Korean, and Taiwan indigenous populations in collaboration with many Asian scientists. Regional populations in Japan, Hondo-Japanese, Ryukyuan, and Ainu, were also studied. HLA-A, -B, and -DRB1 gene frequencies were subjected to the correspondence analysis and calculation of DA distances. The correspondence analysis demonstrated several major clusters of human populations in the world. "Mongoloid" populations were highly diversified, in which several clusters such as Northeast Asians, Southeast Asians, Oceanians, and Native Americans were observed. Interestingly, an indigenous population in North Japan, Ainu, was placed relatively close to Native Americans in the correspondence analysis. Distribution of particular HLA-A, -B, -DRB1 alleles and haplotypes was also analyzed in relation to migration and dispersal routes of ancestral populations. A number of alleles and haplotypes showed characteristic patterns of regional distribution. For example, B39-HR5-DQ7 (B*3901-DRB1*1406-DQB1*0301) was shared by Ainu and Native Americans. A24-Cw8-B48 was commonly observed in Taiwan indigenous populations, Maori in New Zealand, Orochon in Northeast China, Inuit, and Tlingit. These findings further support the genetic link between East Asians and Native Americans. We have proposed that various ancestral populations in East Asia, marked by different HLA haplotypes, had migrated and dispersed through multiple routes. Moreover, relatively small genetic distances and the sharing of several HLA haplotypes between Ainu and Native Americans suggest that these populations are descendants of some Upper Paleolithic populations of East Asia.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 09:49 AM   #2
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Modern Japanese have 20% Jomon blood on average, but I'll leave that for another thread.
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For those of you don't know Kennewick man was also an Jomon and he was 9500 years old.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Scientists finally study Kennewick Man
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Estimated to be more than 9,000 years old, the Kennewick skeleton is one of the oldest, most complete specimens ever found in North America."


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Don't reply to KingButler. He's a multi-account troll who got banned on multiple forums including Anthroscape.

Facial reconstruction of Emishi (Another Jomon/Ainu group)
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Facial reconstruction of Emishi (Another Jomon/Ainu group)
Don't lie (I know you're Piooner), I only got banned in Anthroscape. If was banned in multiple forums you wouldn't just be showing one link. I know 3 people who were also banned from that site but like me have now joined an more advance site ForumBiodiversity.com Anthropology Biodiversity Forum (ABF). I was in ForumBiodiversity before Anthroscape,

The anthropscape moderator aka Crimsom blade is so biased. I've already know this from the Forumbiodviersity members but I didn't know he would be this biased. Reading at his comments I knew there was something weird about him. He is Romaniphobia, Asianphobia, Greekphobia, Africanphobia, and sometimes even NorthEuropean phobia, basically bans or suspend anyone from having an second opinion against him, and this why Anthroscape is becoming an ghost town.

Here's another 2 victims of Crimson Blade.

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" I'm doing fine, thanks. I was permanently banned from Anthroscape because I dared to mock Crimson Tard's greekophobia."

"btw, how are you doing Re? Ole Anthroscape buddy ole pal? I'm currently in Banlandia for arguing with Crimson tard. I'm not perma banned though."

" Crimson Tard is an Silician-American, he banned without giving me an reason "

"To Crimson Guard, you still haven't given me explanations to all your suspensions .

Why anthropology fora ban people so often?


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" I had noticed how most anthropology fora ban people on daily basis. What is the big deal??? More controversy more fun, there is no point to get serious on the internet."

Anyway I wanted to post this in the facial reconstruction forum but too banned I was banned so many members were too, it wouldn't be worth it.

On the left is an Emishi of Kofun type, and the right is an Jomon.
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More facial artistic reconstruction, Jomon on the left and Japanese (Yayoi with slight jomon influence) on the right.
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Here is the skull difference between an Jomon and Yayoi.

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The anthropscape moderator aka Crimsom blade is so biased. I've already know this from the Forumbiodviersity members but I didn't know he would be this biased. Reading at his comments I knew there was something weird about him. He is Romaniphobia, Asianphobia, Greekphobia, Africanphobia, and sometimes even NorthEuropean phobia, basically bans or suspend anyone from having an second opinion against him, and this why Anthroscape is becoming an ghost town.
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Hmmm. . .interesting.
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Cool beans dude. I just read a book about Jomons (actually that book only had 1 chapter on the Jomons :P but the chapter was long), and he described the Jomons to look closer to the Ainus. I didn't get a good visual image in my head but now I do.
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