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Old November 14th, 2012, 03:08 AM   #3

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Thanx a lot for the numerous links deke. Here are a few images.

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An argument trying to justify american rule over sulu as abolishing polygamy and slavery

The course of empire: an official record - Richard Franklin Pettigrew - Google Books

Conversion of the sulu island to islam

State And Society In The Philippines - Patricio N. Abinales, Donna J. Amoroso, Donna J. Amoroso - Google Books

Malay Muslim: The History and Challenge of Resurgent Islam in Southeast Asia - Robert Day McAmis - Google Books

Philippine History Module-based Learning I' 2002 Ed. - Ongsotto, Et Al - Google Books

Genealogies of the sulu sultans

Publications - Philippines. Bureau of Science. Division of Ethnology - Google Books

Division of Ethnology Publications - Google Books

Readings on Islam in Southeast Asia - Google Books

Religionen - Google Books

Study Skills in English for a Changing World' 2001 Ed. - Flores, Et Al - Google Books

My Country and My People 5 - Carpio, Et Al - Google Books

A Handbook of Philippine Folklore - Mellie Leandicho Lopez - Google Books

Religious Glimpses of Eastern Asia - Google Books

Islam in Southeast Asia: Political, Social and Strategic Challenges for the ... - K. S. Nathan, K. S. Nathan and Mohammad Hashim Kamali, editors - Google Books

Turning Points I' 2007 Ed. - Antonio, Et Al - Google Books

Dr. Najeeb Mitry Saleeby (a lebanese christian american) wrote many books on moro history and laws, due to his command in arabic he could read some moro documents. he was in charge of public education in moro areas during the american administration.

Studies in Moro history, law, and religion - Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Studies in Moro history, law, and religion - Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Studies in Moro history, law, and religion - Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Publications - ALBERT ERNEST JENKS, EMERSON BREWER CHRISTIE, NAJEEB M. SALEEBY , OTTO SCHEERER, Philippines. Bureau of Science. Division of Ethnology, WILLIAM ALLAN REED - Google Books

The history of Sulu - Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Sulu reader: for the public schools of the Moro province - Moro Province. Superintendent of Schools, Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Magindanaw reader, for the Public Schools of the Moro Province - Moro Province. Superintendent of Schools, Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Islamic Identity, Postcoloniality, and Educational Policy: Schooling and ... - Jeffrey Ayala Milligan - Google Books

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE PHILIPPINE ISLANDS - GEORGE A. MALCOM - Google Books

Islam in South-East Asia - Google Books

Saleeby's tranlations of moro genealogies (the genealogies were written in tausug and other moro languages in arabic script, so he actually had to learn both languages)

Different Aspects of Islamic Culture: Vol.3: The Spread of Islam Throughout ... - UNESCO - Google Books

Readings on Islam in Southeast Asia - Google Books

The Muslim South and Beyond - Samuel K. Tan - Google Books

The Qur'anic Concept of Umma - George C. Decasa - Google Books

Religionen - Google Books

Hefner: Islam in an Era Paper - Robert W. Hefner, Robert W. Hefner Patricia Horvatich - Google Books

A History of the Philippines - Samuel K. Tan - Google Books

Malay Muslim: The History and Challenge of Resurgent Islam in Southeast Asia - Robert Day McAmis - Google Books

Pandita schools

Islamic Identity, Postcoloniality, and Educational Policy: Schooling and ... - Jeffrey Ayala Milligan - Google Books

Saleeby's brother

SULU WRITING An Explanation of the SULU-ARABIC SCRIPT - C.R. CAMERON - Google Books

Dr. Saleeby sympathized with the moros and argued that the english version of the treaty between sulu and america was interpreted wrongly in favor of america.

Moroland: The History of Uncle Sam and the Moros 1899-1920 - Robert A. Fulton - Google Books

The treaty signed between the sulu sultanate and america

Triumphant plutocracy: the story of American public life from 1870 to 1920 - Richard Franklin Pettigrew - Google Books

History of sulu's relations with spain and america

Census of the Philippine Islands Taken Under the Direction of the Philippine ... - Philippines. Census Office, Felipe Buencamino, Ignacio Villamor - Google Books

Southeast Asia: A Historical Encyclopedia, from Angkor Wat to East Timor - Keat Gin Ooi - Google Books

The Talibanization of Southeast Asia: Losing the War on Terror to Islamist ... - Bilveer Singh - Google Books

Alexander Dalrymple (1737-1808) and the Expansion of British Trade - Howard T. Fry - Google Books

E.J. Brill's First Encyclopaedia of Islam, 1913-1936: Supplement - Google Books

Outdated orientalist anthropological studies on the moros

Elihu Root collection of United States documents relating to the Philippine ... - Elihu Root, United States - Google Books

Moro laws

The Qur'anic Concept of Umma - George C. Decasa - Google Books

English sulu dictionaries

English-Sulu-Malay vocabulary: with useful sentences, tables, and c - Andson Cowie, William Clark Cowie - Google Books

English, Sulu, and Malay vocabulary - Thomas Henry Haynes - Google Books

English-Sulu-Malay vocabulary: with useful sentences, tables, and c - Andson Cowie, William Clark Cowie - Google Books

Sulu arabic alphabet

Sulu Writing, an Explanation of the Sulu-Arabic Script As Employed in ... - C. R. (Charles Raymond) Cameron - Google Books

An account of the lease of north borneo to british citizens by sultan jamalul of sulu

Where in the World Is the Philippines?: Debating Its National Territory - Rodolfo C Severino - Google Books

The sulu sultan Jamalul Kiram II claimed that the british stole north borneo

The Sultan of Sulu tells how England "stole" North Borneo - Aleko E. Lilius, Jamalul Kiram II (Sultan of Sulu) - Google Books

The treaty sulu signed with spain differed radically in its spanish and tausug texts

Iraq, Terror, And The Philippines' Will To War - James A. Tyner - Google Books

Medicinal Plants of the Phillipines - T. Pardo de Tavera - Google Books

Chinese pottery in the Philippines - Fay-Cooper Cole, Berthold Laufer - Google Books

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More on the moros fight against japan in ww2

Youngstown Vindicator - Google News Archive Search

The Lewiston Daily Sun - Google News Archive Search

Lewiston Evening Journal - Google News Archive Search

JAPANESE SET BACK - Hit All Along the Line by Bataan Defenders-Lose Outposts in Reverse GUERRILLAS ALSO ACTIVE Attack Enemy in Other Parts of Luzon -- 'Desultory Fighting' Goes On in Mindanao - Front Page - NYTimes.com

REICH-MADE PLANES SEEN OVER BATAAN - Japanese Believed Dipping Into Reserves to Keep Up Bombing of Philippine Defenders LANAO MOROS LOYAL TO US Leaders of 10,000 Pledge They Will Never Give Up Fighting Till Invaders Are Defeated - Article - NYTimes.c

The Palm Beach Post - Google News Archive Search

The Deseret News - Google News Archive Search

Painesville Telegraph - Google News Archive Search

The Montreal Gazette - Google News Archive Search

Ottawa Citizen - Google News Archive Search

Herald-Journal - Google News Archive Search

Schenectady Gazette - Google News Archive Search

The News and Courier - Google News Archive Search

St. Joseph Gazette - Google News Archive Search

Daytona Beach Morning Journal - Google News Archive Search

Youngstown Vindicator - Google News Archive Search

American Force Bombed by Planes, Shelled by Light Artillery -- Igorotes, Moros Help Armored Force in Holding Peninsula - Article - NYTimes.com

The Evening Independent - Google News Archive Search

Spokane Daily Chronicle - Google News Archive Search

Spokane Daily Chronicle - Google News Archive Search

Lawrence Journal-World - Google News Archive Search

Spokane Daily Chronicle - Google News Archive Search

St. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive Search

Herald-Journal - Google News Archive Search

St. Petersburg Times - Google News Archive Search

The Rock Hill Herald - Google News Archive Search

The Vancouver Sun - Google News Archive Search

MOST OF MINDANAO HELD BY GUERRILLAS - Article - NYTimes.com

The Milwaukee Journal - Google News Archive Search

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette - Google News Archive Search

JAPANESE HALTED IN BATAAN ATTACK - Fighting Dwindles After the Repulse of Enemy Drive -- Planes Harry Defenders - Article - NYTimes.com

BACK TO THE SULUS - Editorial - NYTimes.com

The News and Courier - Google News Archive Search

The Sydney Morning Herald - Google News Archive Search

The Age - Google News Archive Search

The Evening Independent - Google News Archive Search

Outrages Cause Anger - FLOTILLA IS SIGHTED OFF LUZON'S COAST - Front Page - NYTimes.com

Youngstown Vindicator - Google News Archive Search

Meriden Record - Google News Archive Search

Sarasota Herald-Tribune - Google News Archive Search

The Telegraph-Herald - Google News Archive Search

Nevada Mail - Google News Archive Search

The STRATEGIC SLANT

AMERICANS STRIDE IN MINDANAO DRIVE - Push to Vital Road Junction 32 Miles From Illana Bay---- Win Cagayan Key on Luzon - Article - NYTimes.com

U.S. Forces Strike Inland In Mindanao Invasion Drive

ROXAS ESTIMATES PHILIPPINE DEFICIT - Government Expected to Run in Red by $124,000,000 Next Year and Rely on Loans - Article - NYTimes.com

2 idiots in the japanese army hijacked a moro boat and died after sailing it backwards

The Spokesman-Review - Google News Archive Search

Spokane Daily Chronicle - Google News Archive Search

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Old November 15th, 2012, 07:11 PM   #6
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More information on Dr. Najeeb Mitry Saleeby

http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~hapr/win...v/mckenna2.pdf

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Najeeb M. Saleeby, The Moro Problem (Manila: Bureau of Printing). Saleeby was a Syrian-born physician, a Christian Arabic speaker who became fascinated with Philippine Muslims.
A History of Islamic Societies - Ira M. Lapidus - Google Books

The history of Sulu: by Najeeb M. Saleeby.

The History of Sulu : Najeeb Mitry Saleeby , Ethnological Survey for Philippine Islands : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

BARNES & NOBLE | najeeb mitry saleeby, Books

Amazon.com: Najeeb Mitry Saleeby: Books

Formats and Editions of Sulu reader, for the public schools of the Moro province. [WorldCat.org]

Studies in Moro history, law, and religion - Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Studies in Moro History, Law, and Religion - Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Report of the Philippine Commission to the Secretary of War - United States. Philippine Commission (1899-1900) - Google Books

United States Congressional serial set - Google Books

Report of the United States Philippine commission to the secretary of war ... - United States. Philippine Commission, 1900-1916 - Google Books

Congressional serial set - United States. Government Printing Office - Google Books

Northwestern University Law Review - Google Books

Illinois law review - Google Books

Illinois Law Review - Google Books

Different Aspects of Islamic Culture: Vol.3: The Spread of Islam Throughout ... - UNESCO - Google Books

The Qur'anic Concept of Umma - George C. Decasa - Google Books

Arabic Romanic Transliteration and Arabic Reading - Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Welcome to the official website of the Royal House of Sulu

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Sixto Y. Orosa, MD (1931), "The Sulu archipelago and its people", New York: Yonkers-on-HudsonNajeeb M. Saleeby (1908), "The History of Sulu", Manila: Bureau of PrintingDatu Andres Linholm (2011), "The recorded genealogy of Royal House of Sulu", London
An interesting part of his book

The Moro problem; an academic discussion of the history and solution of the problem of the government of the Moros of the Phillipine Islands, by Najeeb M. Saleeby ...

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4. The Question of Religion. Religion as a governmental difficulty can easily be brushed aside; yet indeed it can be encouraged and promoted to the advantage of either side. the government and the people. Religion has never been a cause of hostility between Americans and Moros. Datu Utu and his whole household knew Iwas a Christian, yet they tookconsiderable pleasure in my attendance at some of their religious ceremonies and festivities. Datu Mastura gave me free access to his whole library most of which were religious manuscripts and books on law and magic. There was no book on religion, law, or history in the possession of Datu Ali that I could not get, and the Sultan of Sulu placed his precious Luntar in my hands. The Moros have not that bigotry and religious fanaticism which we observe in India, Western Asia, and Africa. They do not understand the principal doctrines of Mohammedanism, and have so little religion at heart that it is impossible for them to get enthusiastic and fanatic on this ground. They do not know the five prayers and seldom enter a mosque. Some of the panditas attend the Friday service once a week and pray for the Sultan and the whole nation. "Juramentados" are not religious fanatics. Not one juramentado in ten could say his prayers or knew the doctrines of his creed. There has been no greater misunderstanding by Spaniards and Americans on any one Moro subject than on this-the juramentado question. The juramentado is not actuated by a religious feeling. It is fierce patriotism that excites his rashness and provokes his craziness. A juramentado's state of mind during the execution of his purpose is a condition of frenzy or temporary insanity closely allied in its nature to that of being amuck. A man who runs amuck in a manner avenges himself and his personal grievances, but the iuramentado avenges his people and his chief. His chief's call for vengeance rings in his ears and he immediatly comes forward as the hero and avenger of the datuship and gets ready for his treacherous fray. No one, however, faces death without religious wakening and fear, and the reckless juramentado can not advance towards his grave without performing the last rites of his creed. He would not otherwise be allowed to proceed even if he wanted to. Religion plays a secondary role in this case and no blame can attach to the juramentado's creed. Let the Moro be heathen and he will "go juramentado" on the strength of his faith in wooden idols before he yields to a master or gives up his home. The juramentado is a forerunner of hostilities and an evil sign of the times.
Dr. Saleeby was known for being sympathetic to the moros

Lost Time and Untold Tales from the Malay World - Jan van der Putten, Mary Kilcline Cody, Mary Kilcline Cody - Google Books

The Muslim South and Beyond - Samuel K. Tan - Google Books

Filipino Muslim Perceptions of Their History and Culture As Seen Through Indigenous Written Sources

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Bates Treaty

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Whether the Bates treaty made a difference in later years, it is worth mentioning that there was a very critical translation error from English to Tausug. The word sovereignty was not used anywhere in the Tausug version. Article I of the Treaty in the Tausug version states "The support, aid, and protection of the Jolo Island and Archipelago are in the American nation," whereas the English version read "The sovereignty of the United States over the whole Archipelago of Jolo and its dependencies is declared and acknowledged." Najeeb Saleeby, an American of Lebanese descent who was assigned to Mindanao and Sulu, caught the translation flaws and charged Charlie Schuck, son of a German businessman, for deliberately mistranslating the treaty. Schuck was acquitted of all legal charges. Whether mistranslated, the wording of the treaty provided the justification for the U.S. decision to incorporate the Sulu Archipelago into the Philippine state in 1946.
Muslim Rulers and Rebels

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Whether the Bates treaty made a difference in later years, it is worth mentioning that there was a very critical translation error from English to Tausug. The word sovereignty was not used anywhere in the Tausug version. Article I of the Treaty in the Tausug version states "The support, aid, and protection of the Jolo Island and Archipelago are in the American nation," whereas the English version read "The sovereignty of the United States over the whole Archipelago of Jolo and its dependencies is declared and acknowledged." Najeeb Saleeby, an American of Lebanese descent who was assigned to Mindanao and Sulu, caught the translation flaws and charged Charlie Schuck, son of a German businessman, for deliberately mistranslating the treaty. Schuck was acquitted of all legal charges. Whether mistranslated, the wording of the treaty provided the justification for the U.S. decision to incorporate the Sulu Archipelago into the Philippine state in 1946.
The history of Sulu : Saleeby, Najeeb M. (Najeeb Mitry), b. 1870 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

Hefner: Islam in an Era Paper - Robert W. Hefner, Robert W. Hefner Patricia Horvatich - Google Books

Comparative Studies on Muslim Societies: Everyday Politics & Armed Separatism - Thomas M. McKenna - Google Books

Southeast Asia Over Three Generations: Essays Presented to Benedict R. O'G ... - Benedict R. O'G. (Benedict Richard O'Gorman) Anderson, James T. Siegel, Audrey R. Kahin - Google Books

Moroland: The History of Uncle Sam and the Moros 1899-1920 - Robert A. Fulton - Google Books

The War of 1898, and U.S. Interventions, 1898-1934: An Encyclopedia - Benjamin R. Beede - Google Books
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Many false rumors were printed in the american media over the treaty between sulu and america allowing for polygamy and slavery, and even having the nerve to comlain about the sulu ultan allegedly banning christian missionaries

The Outlook - Ernest Hamlin Abbott, Lyman Abbott, Francis Rufus Bellamy, Hamilton Wright Mabie - Google Books

Reminds me of modern yellow journalism.

The spanish moro wars lasted hundreds of years, right from the beginning to the end of spanish rule in the philippines.

A Local Church Living for Dialogue: Muslim-Christian Relations in Mindanao ... - William Larousse - Google Books

A Local Church Living for Dialogue: Muslim-Christian Relations in Mindanao ... - William Larousse - Google Books

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Journal of the Association of Military Surgeons of the United States - Google Books

American Journal of Dermatology and Genito-urinary Diseases - Google Books

A Hunt with the sultan of sulu

A woman's journey through the Philippines on a cable ship that linked ... - Florence Kimball Russel - Google Books

Genealogy of the sultans of maguindanao

Ethnological Survey publications - Philippines Ethnological Survey, Philippines. Dept. of the Interior - Google Books

Publications - Philippines. Bureau of Science. Division of Ethnology - Google Books

Publications - Philippines. Ethnological Survey - Google Books

Division of Ethnology Publications - Google Books

Encyclopędia of Religion and Ethics - Google Books

Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics: Volume 1. A - Art. Part 1. A - Algonquins - Google Books

Handbook of Ethnic Conflict: International Perspectives - Google Books

Dr. Saleeby's views on education

New-York Observer - Google Books

Report of Government Laboratories of the Philippine Islands - Philippines. Bureau of Government Laboratories - Google Books

The Language of Education of the Philippine Islands - Najeeb Mitry Saleeby - Google Books

Dearborn Independent Magazine October 1925-December 1926 - Henry Ford - Google Books

Philippine English: Linguistic and Literary Perspectives - Maria Lourdes S. Bautista, Kingsley Bolton - Google Books

Report of the United States Philippine Commission to the Secretary of War ... - United States. Philippine Commission, 1900-1916 - Google Books

Madrasah education in the Philippines and its role in national integration ... - MSU-Iligan Institute of Technology. Coordination Center for Research and Development - Google Books

The government of the Philippine Islands: its development and fundamentals - George A. Malcolm - Google Books

Saleeby wanted the modernization of the moros to be achieved by the forging of a pan moro islamic identity and was against christianizing them

The American Colonial State in the Philippines: Global Perspectives - Google Books

Comparative Studies on Muslim Societies: Everyday Politics & Armed Separatism - Thomas M. McKenna - Google Books

Fighting Words: Language Policy and Ethnic Relations in Asia - Google Books

Hefner: Islam in an Era Paper - Robert W. Hefner, Robert W. Hefner Patricia Horvatich - Google Books

Islamic Identity, Postcoloniality, and Educational Policy: Schooling and ... - Jeffrey Ayala Milligan - Google Books

Moroland: The History of Uncle Sam and the Moros 1899-1920 - Robert A. Fulton - Google Books
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