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Old November 24th, 2012, 12:29 AM   #41

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Japanese have higher ASI admixture than other East Asians so that may be why.
I have not spent much time in South India, have seen plenty of such faces in North India. Do you think it may be because of ASI admixture in ANI?
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I have not spent much time in South India, have seen plenty of such faces in North India. Do you think it may be because of ASI admixture in ANI?
Probably. Also probably due to the Austro-Asiatic influence in Northeast India who have ASI admixture.
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Probably. Also probably due to the Austro-Asiatic influence in Northeast India who have ASI admixture.
Interesting. Actually my hometown also has a lot of people of Nepali origin - partly bcoz the Gurkhas ruled over Garhwal for a few years a couple of centuries ago and partly bcoz lots of people of serve in the Indian Army chose to settle in Dehradun after retirement.

I read in a few articles that they can be described as Indo-Tibeto-Mongolians. Seems a bit complicated to me. But if they are indeed relatives of Tibetans than we can understand the Japanese connection through the Y-DNA Haplogroup D.

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Prince Harry lived with a Gurkha battalion during his 10 weeks in Afghanistan.

There is said to be a cultural affinity between Gurkhas and the Afghan people which is beneficial to the British Army effort there.

BBC News - Who are the Gurkhas?


So what exactly is this cultural affinity the BBC seems to be talking about. I think the Prince Harry had a close encounter with death sometime ago in Afghanistan.



I am happy that all the retired Gurkhas have won the right to live in the UK.
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Interesting. Actually my hometown also has a lot of people of Nepali origin - partly bcoz the Gurkhas ruled over Garhwal for a few years a couple of centuries ago and partly bcoz lots of people of serve in the Indian Army chose to settle in Dehradun after retirement.

I read in a few articles that they can be described as Indo-Tibeto-Mongolians. Seems a bit complicated to me. But if they are indeed relatives of Tibetans than we can understand the Japanese connection through the Y-DNA Haplogroup D.

According to BBC :




BBC News - Who are the Gurkhas?


So what exactly is this cultural affinity the BBC seems to be talking about. I think the Prince Harry had a close encounter with death sometime ago in Afghanistan.



I am happy that all the retired Gurkhas have won the right to live in the UK.
Nepalis are genetic intermediates between Indians and Tibetans. Not Mongolians.
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Nepalis are genetic intermediates between Indians and Tibetans. Not Mongolians.
I guess we can do away with the old nomenclature. Of course, the Nepalis are not one people. I guess it won't be wrong to say that the Nepalis share the African connection with the Japanese through the Tibetan Y-DNA Haplogroup D then?
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I guess we can do away with the old nomenclature. Of course, the Nepalis are not one people. I guess it won't be wrong to say that the Nepalis share the African connection with the Japanese through the Tibetan Y-DNA Haplogroup D then?
Y-DNA haplogroup D originated in Africa or South Asia, not the Himalayas/Tibet.

Andaman Islanders (Negritos) have the most ancient form of Y-DNA haplogroup D suggesting that they are the ancestors of all Y-DNA haplogroup D carriers.
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Just out of curiousity, could this be attributed to the Japanese mixing with the Ainu and other natives, who presumably were genetically closer to Africans than the typical East Asian?
Yes you are right.

What basically happened was negrito or someone close to ainu migrated to SE asia and japan. But they were wiped out mostly around jomon. However, land brige to mainland despaired around 12ky so some isolation increased survival rate for more mixing.

Other than that, lots racism so darker race with curly hair was killed off.
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Yes you are right.

What basically happened was negrito or someone close to ainu migrated to SE asia and japan. But they were wiped out mostly around jomon. However, land brige to mainland despaired around 12ky so some isolation increased survival rate for more mixing.

Other than that, lots racism so darker race with curly hair was killed off.
Indeed there are so many Japanese looks like African

for exapmle Shinji Ono though he is a pure japanese and typical

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except like his hair, there are many these type of Japanese.
. so is his hair.. except Yakuza's punch perm
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Thanx a lot for the Jomon data but my question was regarding the Female linages found in the present day Japanese people. Also, you failed to produce any genetic data for the Yayoi people of ancient Japan.

I have not met many Japanese people in real life but a few images I have seen on the Internet lead me to believe that there is a distinct African admixture in the present day Japanese people.

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They curl their hair with perm or they are probably mix racial after ww2.
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I think you guys are making way too much of one statistical oddity in one paper. When more studies turn up showing greater similarity of Japanese to Africans than other East Asians, then we'll talk. As it is, it's a blip.

And what can unsourced pictures of hairstyles off the internet prove? We don't know where they came from, or why their hair is like that. It could be natural. It could be a perm. It could be a wig. We don't know, because we don't know where the pictures came from!
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