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Old November 21st, 2012, 12:07 AM   #11

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but it did end at a point and took a completely new form unlike China and India !
I think that is what it meant continuity in civilization !
Ah, thanks, I missed that point.
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what does "unbroken chain of history "suppose to mean?China have been conquered by northern barbarians for quite many times and Bhuddism,communism and Capitalism are all invented by foreigners.It's meaningless.
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what does "unbroken chain of history "suppose to mean?China have been conquered by northern barbarians for quite many times and Bhuddism,communism and Capitalism are all invented by foreigners.It's meaningless.
actually china was successively conquered twice: by the Mongols and the Munchus
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actually china was successively conquered twice: by the Mongols and the Munchus
That's debatable,xianbei people also successively conquered china too,But they merged into han people quite soon.
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That's debatable,xianbei people also successively conquered china too,But they merged into han people quite soon.
did they conqer the entire of china?
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did they conqer the entire of china?
It's complicated,but I would say yes.The ruling class of sui and tang dynasty are a mixture of xianbei people and han people.
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It's complicated,but I would say yes.The ruling class of sui and tang dynasty are a mixture of xianbei people and han people.
really? That does not mean they conquered the ENTIRE Tang Dynasty?
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really? That does not mean they conquered the ENTIRE Tang Dynasty?
As I said before,Unlike mongols and manchus,they merged into han people quite soon.Unlike song and ming dynasty,han dynasty was such a strong dynasty that all northern barbarian like xiongnu and xianbei people love to learn from han people.mongols and manchus actually looked down at han people.
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As I said before,Unlike mongols and manchus,they merged into han people quite soon.Unlike song and ming dynasty,han dynasty was such a strong dynasty that all northern barbarian like xiongnu and xianbei people love to learn from han people.mongols and manchus actually looked down at han people.
i agree,but that does not mean they actually conquered the Han. Getting confused
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As I said before,Unlike mongols and manchus,they merged into han people quite soon.Unlike song and ming dynasty,han dynasty was such a strong dynasty that all northern barbarian like xiongnu and xianbei people love to learn from han people.mongols and manchus actually looked down at han people.
So? And where are the Mongols and Manchus today? Today, most ethnic Mongols live in China and consider themselves to be Chinese. The Manchus have become even more assimilated.

Even with interruptions, Chinese civilization still remained for the most part continuous, and is still alive today. That's why it's considered one of the oldest continuous civilizations in the world. And for most of its history, China has done really well, being very strong and rich.

Was Japan always very strong and rich for most of its history? How does Japan compare to China?
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