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Old January 13th, 2013, 08:23 AM   #21
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Yeah...Unfortunately I HAVE to finish a book once I start it. Sucks....
Why is that?
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I didn't really like Gelber's work. It's okay for a very basic overview, but it's not very balanced. The majority of the book details post-1800 China, whilst not as much information is given to pre-1800 history.

John Keay's China: A History provides a good comprehensive overview, if a little popular.

China: A History: Amazon.co.uk: John Keay: Books

Jacques Gernet and John King Fairbank are two heavyweights who provide more academic overviews of the country.

China: A New History: Amazon.co.uk: JK Fairbank, Merle Goldman: Books

A History of Chinese Civilization: Amazon.co.uk: Jacques Gernet, J. R. Foster, Charles Hartman: Books
I enjoyed Kea's book as well. I've thought about buying (A History of Chinese Civilization). What do you have to say about it?
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I enjoyed Kea's book as well. I've thought about buying (A History of Chinese Civilization). What do you have to say about it?
It's well worth a buy I'd say. Very comprehensive and thorough. It's quite long and goes into a fair amount of detail. He does a good job of covering everything from beginning to end. It's a few decades old now, so I'm not entirely sure how it still stands up compared to more modern research, but on the whole I'd still vouch for it.
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Why is that?
I dunno...I'm just weird like that. I can't leave a book, no matter how bad, unfinished.
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I dunno...I'm just weird like that. I can't leave a book, no matter how bad, unfinished.
Unfortunately I'm the same way, no matter how bad or horrible the book.
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Unfortunately I'm the same way, no matter how bad or horrible the book.
I'm completely the opposite. Even if I'm enjoying a book I always struggle to find time to finish it. Plus I have a terrible attention span. As such I always have about three or four books on the go at any one time.

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I've always wanted to read Romance of the three Kingdoms. Never gotten around to it. The book I'm reading now (see signature) is absolutely horrible.....
If you want to learn more about Chinese military history, I'd recommend David A. Graff for the early period and Bruce A. Elleman for the later period.

Medieval Chinese Warfare 300-900 Warfare and History: Amazon.co.uk: David Graff: Books
Medieval Chinese Warfare 300-900 Warfare and History: Amazon.co.uk: David Graff: Books


Modern Chinese Warfare, 1795-1989 Warfare and History: Amazon.co.uk: Bruce A. Elleman: Books
Modern Chinese Warfare, 1795-1989 Warfare and History: Amazon.co.uk: Bruce A. Elleman: Books


Unfortunately I don't myself know of any definitive source for classical warfare (pre-Han) or warfare in the Song-Ming period, but I'm sure someone else will be able to fill those gaps - they're not my areas of speciality. These two books both offer essays on the entirety of Chinese military history but lack of course a structured narrative.

A Military History of China: Amazon.co.uk: David A. Graff, Robin Higham: Books
A Military History of China: Amazon.co.uk: David A. Graff, Robin Higham: Books


Military Culture in Imperial China: Amazon.co.uk: Nicola Di Cosmo, Robin D. S. Yates, Ralph D. Sawyer, Michael Loewe, Michael De Crespigny: Books
Military Culture in Imperial China: Amazon.co.uk: Nicola Di Cosmo, Robin D. S. Yates, Ralph D. Sawyer, Michael Loewe, Michael De Crespigny: Books


I'm also not sure of a good source that covers Chinese military history from beginning to end, but I would recommend staying away from C J Peers, who offers a book very similar it seems to the one you're reading at the moment. Hope that helps!
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Unfortunately I don't myself know of any definitive source for ... warfare in the Song-Ming period ...
Spoke too soon:

War, Politics and Society in Early Modern China, 900-1795 Warfare and History: Amazon.co.uk: Peter Lorge: Books
War, Politics and Society in Early Modern China, 900-1795 Warfare and History: Amazon.co.uk: Peter Lorge: Books

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