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Old February 21st, 2009, 04:28 PM   #1
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Kim Jong Il likely killed his father Kim Il Sung.


There are no clear proof for my title, but if one is considering only the situation at the time, the son kill his father.


The story goes back to 1994, where the Clinton administration was debating what to do, that was to bomb North Korean nuclear reactor or to negotiate with North Korea.

At the time, it was Kim Il Sung who controlled North Korean.

It is said that Clinton did almost decide to bomb the nuclear reactor in North Korea, but South Korean president was too strongly oppsoing to the plan because the bombing may lead to total warfare.

While they were debating what to do in Wahington, North Koreans suddenly told they wanted to negotiate.

That is the U.S. - North Korea Geneva Agreement in which North Korea is obligated to fully report every nuclear programs and admit international organization staffs' investigation while U.S. is obligated to lift a ban for North Korea in international trades and aid to some oils and foods.


At that point, the air was so good that Jimmy Carter, the former president of U.S., visited North Korea to talk about how the agreement was gonna do and what the authorities in North Korea and U.S. had to do in order to solve the problem peacefully.


Not only that,
Kim Il Sung was even talking with South Korean administrators for his vist to Seoul for the summit talk with the South Korean president.


These facts all indicates Kim Il Sung in 1994 was deciding to fully open North Korea to international societies.

Kim Il Sung wanted to open their doors like China, where the Chinese communists successfully brought global companies from the world.


In fact, when Jimmy Carter visited North Korea in summer of 1994, Carter and Mr. Kim were hanging out in one river as Mr. Kim was paddling small boats.

That means Kim Il Sung was very healthy at that point.


But suddenly within one month when Carter left North Korea after he thought successfully negotiated with North Korea about nuclear bomb issue, Kim Il Sung was dead.


Official version from North Korean authorities for his death is that he died due to heart attack while he was visiting a mountain.

The exact time was 1994/July/7 in 2 A.M.

At the time, there was only one doctor in his visiting camp, whose speciality was not any surgical.


At that night, there was storms that prevented emergent doctors from coming to where Kim Il Sung was lying. They sent the emergency doctors through helicopters, but could not enter the mountain due to the night and too windy.

That's everything they could do.

There was a road for traffic, but they did not send any doctors to dying Kim Il Sung through the road, which they should have done even though it was too late.

So Kim Il Sung's corpse could be autopsyed in next morning after he died.


Even the situation was very urgent, his son did not take any action to save his father. Kim Jung Il was reported that Kim Il Sung was in the most urgenet situation, but he did not send even emergent doctor to the site.


At the time, Kim Jung Il pretty much had lots of authorities instead of his old fahter, whose age was more than 80.

But Kim Jung Il was just watching the situation as if he wanted his father to die.


You may know, but in North Korea, there was a fire in a family's house. While his family were all burned in the house due to the fire, what the father most take care of was not his family, but Kim Il Sung and Kim Jung Il's face pictures.

Keeping that in mind, while Kim Jung Il was dying due to heart attack, no emergency doctors were dispatched to save his life, not the picture.

Does that make any sense?

No unless the doctors were ordered not to go to the site, there is not even any chance to do such thing in North Korea.


Later while citizens of Pyongyang were gathering to throw sticks and rocks to the emergency doctors hospital, Kim Jung Il ordered to disperse them, and made an executive order to protect the emergency doctors who did not go to save his father.


Not only that, according to unknown former secrete intelligence agent in North Korea, when Kim Il Sung lastly visited the mountain(where he died) in that time, they found one explosive bomb in the place where Kim Il Sung was supposed to pass by.

Surprisingly, no body was investigated to find who set the explosive.

That also demonstrates the consipiracy was planned by powerful North Korean authorities, and at the time, excluding Kim Jung Il, no body dare could do such thing.


It is because Kim Jung Il, who at the time of 1994, had in fact lots of power instead of his old father.


Actually Kim Jung Il was in the center of North Korean politics after 1980s as Kim Il Sung was aging, and Kim Il Sung felt he needed his predecessor.

So from the 1980s, Kim Il Sung was kind of taking rest, getting only report from his son,Kim Jung Il. In other words, Kim Il Sung only made a decision that was very important, and most of petty decisions were made by his son, Kim Jung Il.


Kim Il Sung did not notice his people were starving before he visited the mountain for the purpose of inspecting how people were living.

And Kim Il Sung found his people starving, not wearing clothes, and like beggars, for which Kim Jung Il only reported his father that his people were living well under the leadership of Kim Il Sung.


KIM Il Sung found his son was lying and falsely reporting the national affairs, which made him angry, and possibly led to heart attack.

At least, under the era of Kim Il Sung, North Korea was obviosuly wealthy than South Korea until 1980s.

Now the situation was too different.

After Kim Il Sung was dead, his son officially took all authorities in North Korea, and pushed scientists to research nuclear program more vigorosuly, which his father and international politicians had decided to cancel.


That results in nowadays North Korean nuclear crisis.



Maybe it is insufficient for Kim Jung Il to kill his people, but he had to kill even his father.

Again there is not even one evidence for Kim Jung Il killed his father, but considering the situations and some direct sources from North Korea, it is almost true that Kim Jung Il killed his father to gain full power.
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Interesting stuff, fledse. Thanks for posting and welcome to the forum!!
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 04:09 AM   #3
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this reminds me of the story some time back that kim jong il had died and the north korean rulers had body-doubles as stand ins to hie the fact that the leader was dead.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4692472.ece

if i rmember correctly, kim jong has named his youngest son as hier. as the boy is but a boy, mabey theres some truth in the rumors.
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if i rmember correctly, kim jong has named his youngest son as hier. as the boy is but a boy, mabey theres some truth in the rumors.
That was reported from Japanese newspaper, which South Korean the department of Unification rebuted.

Yet, according to the government source, nothing has been decided.

The thrid son, as long as I know, is now only 25 or 26 (born in 1983 or 84).

But well, retrospecting Asian History (including China, Japan and Korea), when the crown prince was not the first son, mostly they started to divided inside.

I mean, the first son, as long as he is not so retarded and not so insane, was the most effective way to lead the country or kingdom.


Kim Jung Il, as a King of North Korea, is probably worrying about the situation. And especially, the third son is not born from the same mother who bore the first son. (if I am right, the first son's mother died).

Everytime in Asian History, appointing not first son as a heir leads to conflicts between each power.
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