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Old February 12th, 2014, 11:04 PM   #21

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Malaysia isn't the developed country.
Catchin up with ya soon, mate. 2014 estimate per cap GDP (nominal) US$12,250, and that with a population about 10 times bigger. Should come and pay us a visit some time. Get away from the Lithuanian cold for a while.
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A lot of that is due to the hard work of Chinese and perhaps Indian Malaysians I'd say, despite the criminal and ludicrous affirmative action laws favoring "bumiputera"
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The reason Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan are so advanced is because all three countries were given extensive financial aid by the United States in the era after World War 2 and the Korean War.
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Japan/SK/Taiwan barely got anything compared to what was given to Europe. Guess why?

And Chinese Indonesians/Thais/Singaporeans/Filipinos/Malays got jack, and are at about the same level as Taiwan.

Likewise Chinese people in the UK, Australia, America, Canada are successful as well. And now China has the fastest growth in human history - and they've gotten nothing from anyone except other Chinese people.
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Japan/SK/Taiwan barely got anything compared to what was given to Europe. Guess why?

And Chinese Indonesians/Thais/Singaporeans/Filipinos/Malays got jack, and are at about the same level as Taiwan.

Likewise Chinese people in the UK, Australia, America, Canada are successful as well. And now China has the fastest growth in human history - and they've gotten nothing from anyone except other Chinese people.
Foreign investments during Deng?
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Old February 13th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #26

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A lot of that is due to the hard work of Chinese and perhaps Indian Malaysians I'd say, despite the criminal and ludicrous affirmative action laws favoring "bumiputera"
Criminal and ludicrous, aye .. now, now ... those are rather strong words, you know. One could also say,there were unplanned events in history ... and if only they could turn the clock back ... perhaps the Malay-Bumiputera community would between themselves would rather hv responded to those events in a different way ...

Maybe they would not hv minded not being as developed, or developed more slowly, as long as they had stronger control of what was formerly almost solely their own land ... like the Filipinos, the Thais and the Indonesians still do ... And honestly one doesn't see much wrong with affirmative action. Maybe you would like to elaborate.

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And Chinese Indonesians/Thais/Singaporeans/Filipinos/Malays got jack, and are at about the same level as Taiwan.

Likewise Chinese people in the UK, Australia, America, Canada are successful as well. And now China has the fastest growth in human history - and they've gotten nothing from anyone except other Chinese people.
Relatively recently immigrated communities - mostly economic migrants originally - by and large always tend to carry with them a significantly greater degree of life competitiveness compared to those much longer established than them in their adopted lands. Motivated possibly by a greater hunger to succeed, a lack of other alternative options, plus the drive to make a better life from the one that they and their forebears had before in the lands that they left. These are facts of economics.

I'm sure their adopted lands are all grateful for all their contributions. But one just hopes that they don't entertain any serious intentions of taking over.

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The Malays also displaced native peoples when they arrived on the land they're in. In my opinion all the Malaysian Chinese should just sell their assets and leave - problem solved. The problem with affirmative action, aside from destroying everything it touches, is that it's just sad that a majority population needs affirmative action to compete against a minority it uses violence against to terrorize.

And many of those groups I'm mentioning are not recently immigrated but a good portion of Chinese Canadians/Americans/Australians are descendants of people who were dirt poor and uneducated.

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it's because of the country stability.
korea,japan,taiwan,hongkong,singapore, these countries have only one nation, one race, one religion, one history. in the last 50 years, these countries are very stable politically, economically.
looking at philipine, thailand, malysia,..., these countries contains several races, several religions, several histories. there are always unrest events, even today.

Where did you get such nonsense from? These places have freedom of religions, and, while Christianity has not grown much in Japan, it has in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore and Korea. The use of English in Singapore is ubiquitous because of all the different mother tongues there. Even in Hong Kong, there are large groups of people from Vietnam, India, Africa, Europe...
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Why Tailand, Philippines, Indonesia and other countries of Asia with capitalist system didn't achieve similar successes?
Good leadership has a lot to do with this. The Philippines was well under way to becoming an Asian tiger, until Marcos took over. No society is free of corruption, but when there is corruption at the top, the result is chaos in the lower levels. During Marcos' rule, the economy of the Philippines took a plunge, and it only recently started to make up ground once again. Nevertheless, the potential for prosperity is there.
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