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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:01 AM   #1381
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I never said ASI operates in modern land of pure.But it did the excavations of SSC sites in the land of pure back in 1920's under John Marshall.
No it didn't. Republic of India is not the heir of British Indian Empire. How therefore could the organisation of Republic of India operate anywhere before even its creation in 1947.
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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:02 AM   #1382
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I know where it is,it is b/w Yamuna and Sutlej and identifiable with modern GHN course.
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Asko Parpola in an essay on human sacrifice quotes the approximate date of the Vajasaneyi Samhita as around 700 BCE and according to him it is distanced from the Rig Veda later by about 500 years (Bremmer, 2007: 158). Therefore one cannot be certain of things said in the ancient books; they could be based on hearsays or on traditional knowledge handed down by ancestors or purely of imaginary accounts but certainly based not on first-hand knowledge. If it were the information handed down by ancestors then it could be of a description on the Haraxaiti of Afghanistan as suggested by Hock. We are not sure of it; however the fact that the poets had gone wild with imagination is beyond doubt. Prof. Irfan Habib lists the five rivers that join the Helmond strengthening the suggestion of Hock as found in Vajasaneyi Samhita: the Rasa, Kubha, Swastu, Krumu and Gomal (Habib, 2003: 3). When Sarasvati is associated with seven rivers as sapta svasa, `with seven sisters` (RV 6.61.10 /12), it seems that it also does not fit with the Sarasvati river of India but matches well with the seven rivers of the Avesta listed in the text of Yast (19.66-69) namely Xastra, Hvaspa, Fradada, Haraxaiti, Ustavaiti, Urva, Erezi and Zarenumati, totaling eight legitimizing the epithet, sapta svasa, with seven sisters. But in the nadistuti, Sarasvati is clubbed with nine other rivers (RV 10.75.5).

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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:08 AM   #1383
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Asko Parpola in an essay on human sacrifice quotes the approximate date of the Vajasaneyi Samhita as around 700 BCE and according to him it is distanced from the Rig Veda later by about 500 years (Bremmer, 2007: 158). Therefore one cannot be certain of things said in the ancient books; they could be based on hearsays or on traditional knowledge handed down by ancestors or purely of imaginary accounts but certainly based not on first-hand knowledge. If it were the information handed down by ancestors then it could be of a description on the Haraxaiti of Afghanistan as suggested by Hock. We are not sure of it; however the fact that the poets had gone wild with imagination is beyond doubt.Prof. Irfan Habib lists the five rivers that join the Helmond strengthening the suggestion of Hock as found in Vajasaneyi Samhita: the Rasa, Kubha, Swastu, Krumu and Gomal (Habib, 2003: 3). When Sarasvati is associated with seven rivers as sapta svasa, `with seven sisters` (RV 6.61.10 /12), it seems that it also does not fit with the Sarasvati river of India but matches well with the seven rivers of the Avesta listed in the text of Yast (19.66-69) namely Xastra, Hvaspa, Fradada, Haraxaiti, Ustavaiti, Urva, Erezi and Zarenumati, totaling eight legitimizing the epithet, sapta svasa, with seven sisters. But in the nadistuti, Sarasvati is clubbed with nine other rivers (RV 10.75.5).

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Lol stop spamming contradictory posts.
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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:10 AM   #1384
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No it didn't. Republic of India is not the heir of British Indian Empire.
India is the heir of British Indian empire because even the name is British 'India' after all ,and not British 'land of pure jihadists'
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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:45 AM   #1385
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Lol stop spamming contradictory posts.
It is not me who is posting contradictory posts. It is the ancient Hindu texts which make contradictory claims. Most Hindu texts state different things about mythical Saraswati. The scientific studies clearly indicate that Ghaggar was a small stream during the era of Harappan settlements along Ghaggar and that these settlements were not dependent on the water of Ghaggar.

The Hindu texts, the scientific studies are clear in their judgment that the Indus Valley Civilisation was never a Saraswati civilisation.

It is only the Hindutva laden extremist Hindus of your country who are propagating a false premise and they have been repeatedly proven wrong. However, when your government wants to proclaim a wrong claim, the Hindu texts, the scientific studies, the historians, the archeologists, the writers can not but highlight facts and can not fight a state driven paranoid propaganda.

This is the murder of history and truth.
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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:46 AM   #1386
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India is the heir of British Indian empire because even the name is British 'India' after all ,and not British 'land of pure jihadists'
Nope - Republic of India is fast becoming a land of pure Hindu extremists.
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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:46 AM   #1387
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Asko Parpola in an essay on human sacrifice quotes the approximate date of the Vajasaneyi Samhita as around 700 BCE and according to him it is distanced from the Rig Veda later by about 500 years (Bremmer, 2007: 158). Therefore one cannot be certain of things said in the ancient books; they could be based on hearsays or on traditional knowledge handed down by ancestors or purely of imaginary accounts

with seven sisters` (RV 6.61.10 /12), it seems that it also does not fit with the Sarasvati river of India but matches well with the seven rivers of the Avesta listed in the text of Yast (19.66-69)

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So the brilliant conclusion drawn here are -

1. the approximate date of the Vajasaneyi Samhita as around 700 BCE

Comment : Yagyavalka the author of Vajasaneyi Samhita ( White Yajurveda ) is mentinoned in Mahabharata, so, Mahabharata happened in 700 BCE, congratulations to Parpola for wonderful research that Mahaharata also hapened in 700 BCE.

2. one cannot be certain of things said in the ancient books

Comment : Great, one must be certain of things said by Parpola, Witzel and Romila Thapar.

3. Sarasvati river of India but matches well with the seven rivers of the Avesta listed in the text of Yast (19.66-69)

Comment : When it comes to acknowledge Saraswati in India, it's a mythical river, personification of Goddess, but When it comes to show Saraswati in west of Indus in Iran or elsewhere, It matches well

and last but not the least

4. The reference to https://enorkumar.wordpress.com/tag/hakra-culture

Where this guy enorkumar quotes "Witzel remarks it was not so and gives the meaning splitting the word as sam and udra, water in a jar, small pool, large lake, etc. He also cites the Rig Vedic hymn addressed to Indra-Soma (6.72.3)"


Comments - "This guy, enorkumar doesn't know that "Udra" means only "water" not "Water in jar" as Witzel manipulatively puts as per this guy enorkumar.

Not having self analytical abilities is a major concern here when there are many village bumpkins on the job around, who keeps picking and quoting from such naive/knave blog posts.

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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:53 AM   #1388
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The scientific studies clearly indicate that Ghaggar was a small stream during the era of Harappan settlements along Ghaggar and that these settlements were not dependent on the water of Ghaggar.
So the retarded Harappans built up large settlements like Rakhigarhi,Banawali,Kalibangan,Ganerwala etc near a puny little small stream like Ghaggar instead of Indus....riiiiiight!

I guess ignorance is your birthmark
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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:53 AM   #1389
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Nope - Republic of India is fast becoming a land of pure Hindu extremists.
We dont blow ourselves up
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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:54 AM   #1390
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So the brilliant conclusion drawn here are -

1. the approximate date of the Vajasaneyi Samhita as around 700 BCE

Comment : Yagyavalka is mentinoned in Mahabharata, so, Mahabharata happened in 700 BCE, congratulations to Parpola for wonderful research that Mahaharata also hapened in 700 BCE.

2. one cannot be certain of things said in the ancient books

Comment : Great, one must be certain of things said by Parpola, Witzel and Romila Thapar.

3. Sarasvati river of India but matches well with the seven rivers of the Avesta listed in the text of Yast (19.66-69)

Comment : When it comes to acknowledge Saraswati in India, it's a mythical river, personification of Goddess, but When it comes to show Saraswati in west of Indus in Iran or elsewhere, It matches well

and lost but not the least

4. The reference to https://enorkumar.wordpress.com/tag/hakra-culture

Where this guy enorkumar quotes "Witzel remarks it was not so and gives the meaning splitting the word as sam and udra, water in a jar, small pool, large lake, etc. He also cites the Rig Vedic hymn addressed to Indra-Soma (6.72.3)"


Comments - "This guy, enorkumar doesn't know that "Udra" means only "water" not "Water in jar" as Witzel manipulatively puts as per this guy enorkumar.

Not having self analytical abilities is a major concern here when there are many village bumpkins on the job around, who keeps picking and quoting from such naive/knave blog posts.
And why should I believe you. What are your qualifications when you challenge some of the best such names related to the subject. And what about different Hindu texts stating different things about mythical river Saraswati. Are you suggesting that the refered Ancient Hindu texts are wrong?
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