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Old December 5th, 2014, 10:18 PM   #1511
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Hindsight speculations about Hindu Mythology, Mother Goddess cults or fertility sects associated with archaeologically discovered female figurines, the bull, the horned deity and trees like the so-called sacred pipal tree depiction of Indus Valley Civilizational era, are indeed tempting for many Hindus from Republic of India.

But this goes too far when many of those interpreting the Mother Goddess figurines in the manner, also interpret something so straightforward as a grave containing a male and female skeleton as “possibly the first indication of the well-known Hindu custom of "sati” (live widows burning themselves to death on their dead husbands’ cremation pyres or entombing themselves in their husband’s graves). The couple may simply have been buried side by side, whenever they died. Or for that matter, identify a mythical river, the one which is also mythologically lost and also identically identified with Saraswati, the Goddess of knowledge with an ancient dried bed of an occasionally seasonal river identified with a totally different name, also since thousands of years, Ghaggar-Hakra.

Identical 9000 year old female figurines discovered in Turkey were initially thought to project cult of Mother Goddess. However, most scholar now agree that these were mere toys for the children and did not represent the cult of Mother Goddess. Similarly, there are many renowned scholars who state the same for these Indus Valley female figurines pronounced as Mother Goddeses, that these actually were toys for the children and nothing more. In the similar manner that there hardly exist any similarity between Saraswati, the lost mythological river of the yore and Ghaggar-Hakra, the existing dried bed of a river which was never glaciated in origin in contrivance to the Rig Vedic edict of Saraswati being an emanation of such high mountains.

Identically, the so-called Great Bath of an Indus Valley Civilisation's city called Mohenjodaro resembles the ritual bathing tanks of Hindu temples that began to appear in Republic of India's landmass, in the first few centuries AD. Four thousand years later, indeed, every Indian temple has its tank. Therefore, the argument goes, the tank must have served the same function in the even thousands of years earlier Indus Valley Civilisation. Similarly, the so-called College of Priests in Mohenjo-Daro has been taken as evidence for the existence of a widespread priesthood. Well, it’s a big building, true, but why couldn’t it be a dorm, or a hotel, or a hospital, or even a brothel for that matter - we do have Heera Mandi (a bazar of prostitutes) in Lahore (Pakistan) don't we.

Works of art such as the images on the Indus Valley seals and other artifacts provide abundant evidence of imaginative art, though not mythological and certainly not necessarily ritual. They may have been purely decorative, or they may illustrate narratives of some sort or convey some sort of symbolic meaning, probably more than one, as some symbols often do. But did they necessarily express the symbols of an organized religion? There are no recognisable religious buildings or elaborate burials in the Indus Valley Civilisation's cities, no signs of ancestral rituals or “magnificent icons” or any “specially decorated structures.” The conclusion is clear enough, “If there were temples they are difficult to identify - or as majority of scholars agree that there were no temples.

Similarly, the science has proved and given its decision through many many recent studies that mythical Rig Vedic lost river Saraswati is definitely not the dried bed of old Ghaggar-Hakra. And due to this fact, Indus Valley Civilisation can not be associated with a non-existent Saraswati civilisation.
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Contrary to earlier assumptions that a large glacier-fed Himalayan river, identified by some with the mythical Sarasvati, watered the Harappan heartland on the interfluve between the Indus and Ganges basins, we show that only monsoonal-fed rivers were active there during the Holocene.

Fluvial landscapes of the Harappan civilization

This is a clear indication that during the last over 11000 years, there wasn't any mythical river Saraswati ever flowed in this area, as per the edicts of premier Hindu scripture Rig Veda.
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This thread is just one man show.
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Even one man can stand up to a billion and state the truth.
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Even one man can stand up to a billion and state the truth.
About 7 billion actually. Bit sad that you have to keep posting the same stuff in an attempt to keep the thread alive. Three whole pages now with you just spam posting to keep your agenda going.
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Bit sad that you have to keep posting the same stuff in an attempt to keep the thread alive. Three whole pages now with you just spam posting to keep your agenda going.
Yet, you keep falling for the bait by responding. They can only keep it going if there's an audience...too many times you and others have played right into their hands.
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About 7 billion actually. Bit sad that you have to keep posting the same stuff in an attempt to keep the thread alive. Three whole pages now with you just spam posting to keep your agenda going.
Do you think that 7 billion people agree with you that a mythical and never found river called Saraswati existed because it has been mentioned and stated as such in Hindy mythology. Sir, there are many in the billion Hindu majority of Republic of India also do not believe in what you state. Scientific studies have proved that the dried bed of an old river Ghaggar-Hakra was never Saraswati. Yet, in order to prove that because it has been mentioned in Hindu mythology, it would be true, the facts are not agreed to or are manipulated to prove something that was not.
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Yet, you keep falling for the bait by responding. They can only keep it going if there's an audience...too many times you and others have played right into their hands.
There is no "they", I am probably one of the few Pakistanis who post here and it has been me, who has been baited, abused and made fun of, by them.
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Yet, you keep falling for the bait by responding.
I do apologize. I'll try to refrain, though I find the spamming highly irritating.
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They can only keep it going if there's an audience...too many times you and others have played right into their hands.
Normally, I'd agree. But you have seen the last two or so pages right?
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There is no "they", I am probably one of the few Pakistanis who post here and it has been me, who has been baited, abused and made fun of, by them.
And you can certainly continue posting as long as you follow our rules . I apologize for the lack of clarity in my comment. It really had nothing to do with you. Simply put, if people don't like what's posted then don't interact in the thread.
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