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Old February 25th, 2015, 12:52 PM   #51
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Yes. All things are from chinese. you check this article
National sentiment controlled by rumors | ChinaHush

As considering chinese's terror on Korean and Korean history. Fake Korean nationists would be chinese also. They can speak and write Korean. Additionally, Their talk is nonsense as Korean nationists and me hear that.
That's an interesting article. I was not aware of that. And it's Chinese people running the site so one can't accuse them of any pro-Korean bias.

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Chinese can not distinguish between nationism and story. Moreover, fake story from uncertain people or groups laugh at me.

1. Ming dynasty founder Zhu Yuanzhang was a Korean?

Never. There are any nationists of Korea do not sat like that.

That story was from 環球時報 Chinese newspaper of chinese Communist part

That simply was one of folklore. I firstly know it. But It is not evidence of Korean nationism.

There exists kinds of folklore in the every culture. As unity's logic, The Da Vinci Code is nationism of French?

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...action=history

Their lists of writers in wiki you mentioned are Anti-Korean Japanese.

1. Na Se-jin(나세진) was a doctor. and he translated Latin and german language to Korean for medical development.

??? : ????

He never mentioned that Koreans are superior in "looks, brains, bravery, stature, and strength" to the Chinese and Japanese, and resemble Europeans more than "Mongoloids"

That is fake

The Daejonggyo cult of Dangun was religion group. That is not represent Korean nationism. For example,a few European believe Mu, Atlantis continent. That represents all Euroepean's instance?

That is fake


Hong Rhee Beom is leader?

???? 12? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?? ?? | ????

미주한인연합회..
There are no name "Hong Rhee Beom"

That would be fake.

Who is ultra nationist of Korea?

In additional, I have a lot of informations of ridiculous opinion from chinese such as "Shang prince founded America and ancestor of American indian" or "Tibet people were from alien planet", "Xīwngmǔ was Athens's myth" so on.
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Old February 25th, 2015, 01:27 PM   #53
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Chinese can not distinguish between nationism and story.
While that is true for many Chinese netizens, it's not true for all. Many can. RollingWave, HackneyedScribe, and YouLoveMeYouKnowIt come to mind.

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While that is true for many Chinese, it's not true for all. Many can. RollingWave, HackneyedScribe, and YouLoveMeYouKnowIt come to mind.
You are right,Frankly. I am not sure that Korean are a branch of Altaic or not, But It is obivously between Korean and chinese far from each other aspect of proto-culture and race.
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I've always been fascinated by the creativity and poetry of nationalist movements. Some nationalist movements managed to rewrite or just completely invent mythologies, traditions and tales that are now fully part of their nation's culture. Korean nationalists of the 19th century did an incredible job of interpreting and arranging the country's history and its creation myths, something I hope to be able to write on in the near future. Korea's nationalism is still strong today, and some extreme nationalists have pretty far-fetched theories about the origins and forgotten history of the Korean people. The theories exposed below are in no way representative of the general opinion of Koreans on their history. They are the work of a minority of what could be taken for Internet trolls, if only they didn't seem so serious about their claims.

The story of Hwan-guk is based on a pseudo-historical book written in the 20th century: the Hwandan Gogi (환단고기 Hwandan Gogi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) which relates the mythical origins of Korea. Hwan-guk was supposed to be a confederacy of 12 states, spanning 160 million square kilometers and lasting for over 3000 years. The theory is that the Korean race originated from Central Asia and conquered a territory which looks like the Mongol empire. The country was governed by Hwan-In. In the Samguk-Yusa, an old and widely studied historical record of Korea, Hwan-in was the grandfather of the mythical Joseon founder Dangun. Proponent of the Hwan-guk theory says that some versions of the Samguk-Yusa write Hwan-guk instead of Hwan-in (guk meaning country) and that this is the proof that the people who founded Korea descended from the old Hwan-guk empire.



A partial translation of what is said in the video can be found here and hereYou'll learn for example that "There is a country called Sumiliguk. Some claim that Sumiliguk is the old Sumer civilization. According to this declaration, people of Sumer who has built up the Mesopotamia civilization are ethnic ancestors of Korea."
To further prove this link between ancient Sumer and Korea, several blogs I found also have a list of Ancient Sumerian words closely resembling modern Korean words. For example:


아비 (Abi) 아버지 (aboji = dad)
움마 (Uhma) 엄마 (eomma = mom)
바드 (Bad) 밭 田 (bat = field)
안(An) 하늘 天 (haneul = sky)

The people who believe in Hwanguk, or more generally in any form of Korean hegemony are sometimes referred to as 환빠 (Hwanbba) on history bulletin boards. Their detractors are 환까 (H****ka). The theories about other places of the world, especially the Americas, having been conquered or populated by Koreans are many.


From this article:
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According to Pr. Son Seong-tae of PaiChai University in Daejon, many words of Nahuatl and Quechua in the New world can be traced back to Korean because the structure is similar and some words sound the same, such as 날 (nal/day) = nal, 오다 (oda/to come) = wala, 가다 (gada/to go) = ga, 여기 (yeogi/here) = ye, etc...

This other article
http://old.ddanzi.com/articles/artic...rticle_id=2632
offers more explanations such as the fact that Niagara would be a compound word based on the Korean words 나이 nai (넷 naet, four) +가람 galam (강 kang, river).
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Chinese version of Hwandan gogi is 龍鳳文化源流

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This book is about chinese is ancestor of America Indian and Chinese made "Pacific ocean culture"
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Does any of this have to do with the OP?
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Yeah. It's frustrating how people who are always complaining about Korean nationalism are always talking about claims made by the small-but-loud group that the vast majority of Koreans don't listen to, then claim that "Korean say this", "Koreans make X claim". Nobody ever talks about the claims that the Olmecs, Mayas, etc. were Chinese.

Apparently it's impossible to be a Chinese nationalist. At least, seemingly according to some people.
I don't claim that "koreans say this or koreans made X claim", I only say that "korean nationalists say this or claim that".

I know that not all koreans are nationalists and there are koreans who are friendly to China, but the small-but-loud group of ultra korean nationalists are getting on Chinese people's nerves.

You guys also claim that "Chinese are nationalists", but in fact most Chinese don't care about history. We are too busy with our everyday lives.
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In additional, I have a lot of informations of ridiculous opinion from chinese such as "Shang prince founded America and ancestor of American indian" or "Tibet people were from alien planet", "Xīwngmǔ was Athens's myth" so on.
I can guarantee you that the majority of Chinese don't believe in those silly claims.

It's obvious that Chinese and Native Americans had different origins.
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I can guarantee you that the majority of Chinese don't believe in those silly claims.

It's obvious that Chinese and Native Americans had different origins.
Korean also do not believe Hwangdangogi. Could you stop your's fake opinion on Korean nationism and Korean history?
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