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Old April 28th, 2015, 07:59 AM   #1

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Greeks or Indo-Greeks during Mauryan and Post-Mauryan period


I want to know what happened to Greeks who left behind in India and Bactria after Seleucus Nikator was defeated by Chandragupta Maurya in 305BC taking the large part of Eastern Hellenic Empire into Maurya Empire. How they lived under Maurya Empire and how they resurged after the fall of Mauryan Empire in 185BC to form various Indo-Greek Kingdoms across North-West.
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I want to know what happened to Greeks who left behind in India and Bactria after Seleucus Nikator was defeated by Chandragupta Maurya in 305BC taking the large part of Eastern Hellenic Empire into Maurya Empire. How they lived under Maurya Empire and how they resurged after the fall of Mauryan Empire in 185BC to form various Indo-Greek Kingdoms across North-West.
First these people Greeks (Yavana) were here much earlier than any Alexander invasion.

Secondly They merged with Indians to form IndoGreek group which is subdivided in two groups Arora and Khatris .Most of bollywood stars like Sunny Leone, Karina Kapoor Ritik roshan or oldies like Sadhana fall in this group .After Partition they have adopted a new identity of Punjabi ,a sad story of losing one's own identity.
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The Greeks and their descendants would have slowly merged with the larger native Indian populati.

As the Greeks intermarried with the Indians, their children probably took on a more native identity. As the Greek community became less Greek. I imagine some Greeks might have ttraveled back to the Greek world to retain their Greek identity.
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First these people Greeks (Yavana) were here much earlier than any Alexander invasion.

Secondly They merged with Indians to form IndoGreek group which is subdivided in two groups Arora and Khatris .Most of bollywood stars like Sunny Leone, Karina Kapoor Ritik roshan or oldies like Sadhana fall in this group .After Partition they have adopted a new identity of Punjabi ,a sad story of losing one's own identity.
Utter garbage. First Khatris were said to be Hunas and now Greeks!
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The Greeks and their descendants would have slowly merged with the larger native Indian populati.

As the Greeks intermarried with the Indians, their children probably took on a more native identity. As the Greek community became less Greek. I imagine some Greeks might have ttraveled back to the Greek world to retain their Greek identity.
Greeks numbered few thousands or say few tens of thousands in Punjab a land where million lived. As soon as they entered Gandhara(Af Pak) , they started using local language on their coins. Menander even adopted Buddhism.

In first century BC, Sakas and Kushans destroyed these Greek kingdoms as easily as knife runs through butter. Most Greek males died or left no issues, few females might have been taken by Kushans etc. Indians marrying Greeks might have happened but it would be like a drop in ocean.

This forum does not allow genetics but I can assure you that not even 3 percent of Pakistanis have any Greek connection.
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Utter garbage. First Khatris were said to be Hunas and now Greeks!
This forum is an opportunity for you to learn and you should not waste such an important chance without asking questions.

Khatris as Hunas.....???? who said that and on what basis ? Huna section was mainly made up of of Jats Gujjar and present day Rajput people ,they were fierce fighters not traders like present day Arora/ khatris.
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Greeks numbered few thousands or say few tens of thousands in Punjab a land where million lived. As soon as they entered Gandhara(Af Pak) , they started using local language on their coins. Menander even adopted Buddhism.

In first century BC, Sakas and Kushans destroyed these Greek kingdoms as easily as knife runs through butter. Most Greek males died or left no issues, few females might have been taken by Kushans etc. Indians marrying Greeks might have happened but it would be like a drop in ocean.

This forum does not allow genetics but I can assure you that not even 3 percent of Pakistanis have any Greek connection.
It seems you know only a section of Indo Greeks that accompanied Alexander ,Fact is Greeks have been living in Bactria Gandhara regions much earlier then Alexander's invasion.

Persians kings used to settle Greek captive in Bactria who settled colonies there .When Alexander came here these people met him and told him , they were Greeks .Such colonies were visited by Chinese and lately by Muslim travelers.

I didn't know if posting Genetics is banned here which sheds a lot of light on historical facts .I would advise you to study a genetic report by Mukherji on genetics of Jat Brahman and Arora/Khatris of Punjab and find out which Indian group contains European Haplogroup in their blood samples.
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This forum is an opportunity for you to learn and you should not waste such an important chance without asking questions.

Khatris as Hunas.....???? who said that and on what basis ? Huna section was mainly made up of of Jats Gujjar and present day Rajput people ,they were fierce fighters not traders like present day Arora/ khatris.
The only group who can trace their lineage from the Hunas with any historical accuracy(to my knowledge) are the Abdali clans of the Pashtuns as Abdali is cognate with 'Abdal/Yepthal', which is what one of the dominant tribes of the hun confederecy were known as.
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It seems you know only a section of Indo Greeks that accompanied Alexander ,Fact is Greeks have been living in Bactria Gandhara regions much earlier then Alexander's invasion.

Persians kings used to settle Greek captive in Bactria who settled colonies there .When Alexander came here these people met him and told him , they were Greeks .Such colonies were visited by Chinese and lately by Muslim travelers.

I didn't know if posting Genetics is banned here which sheds a lot of light on historical facts .I would advise you to study a genetic report by Mukherji on genetics of Jat Brahman and Arora/Khatris of Punjab and find out which Indian group contains European Haplogroup in their blood samples.
This is true.
There were probably significant number of Greeks in eastern Persian empire before Alexandrine invasion and it certainly finds mention in Panini's work, which is dated to the Gandhara fluorit of 7th century BCE to 4th century BCE period.

But Bart Dale is also correct- the Greek identity was almost entirely consumed in the Indosphere and also damaged by the hepthalite invasions.
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This forum is an opportunity for you to learn and you should not waste such an important chance without asking questions.

Khatris as Hunas.....???? who said that and on what basis ? Huna section was mainly made up of of Jats Gujjar and present day Rajput people ,they were fierce fighters not traders like present day Arora/ khatris.
I am simply amused.

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