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Old February 1st, 2016, 12:48 PM   #11
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I know it's not reliable but Jatland claim them to be Jat clan. Bear in mind that Jatland also claim Marathas, Rajputs and Gurkhas to be Jats as well. Make of it it what you will lol.
Jatland is notorious for all sorts of spurious claims. They even claim Chandragupta Maurya as a Jat.
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Even Baluch are descendants of Jats LOL
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This could be a case of a hitherto little known martial group riding the coat tails of a more successful and famous ethnic group and claiming descent from them.
It is possible some Marathas intermarried with a few Rors and stayed on in Haryana but by and large the original group while demographically dominant wasnt affected by the culture or language decided to adopt Maratha lineage as a point of pride.

Similar to how many minor unknown kings traditionally claimed to descendents of solar and lunar dynasty with no proof whatsoever.
Another theory someone came up with to explain Maratha connection was that Roh prefer rice over wheat like Marathas. Not sure how true it is.
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Even Baluch are descendants of Jats LOL
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It would have made sense, if Marathas were popular in Haryana.

They hardly had much success in this region, and most Haryanvis would not even know that they ruled parts of Haryana. On the other hand, almost all are aware of Afghans, Turks, Sikhs and Rajputs. I can't imagine any Haryanvi community claiming descent from Marathas because of their fame and popularity. This would make zero sense to any Hariyanvi.
It doesnt now but may have back then when Marathas were the top dog in India.Anyway as I said these Rors werent that famous to begin and alliance with Marathas may have been the best bet. If they claimed to Rajputs , Jats or Kshatriyas , they would have been sniffed out easily.
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It doesnt now but may have back then when Marathas were the top dog in India.Anyway as I said these Rors werent that famous to begin and alliance with Marathas may have been the best bet. If they claimed to Rajputs , Jats or Kshatriyas , they would have been sniffed out easily.
Possible. The best way to verify their connection to Marathas would be looking at their surnames and clan names.
I remember a few of their surnames, perhaps we need someone from Maharashtra who could tell if they have any similarity with any Maratha clan-names.
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Another theory someone came up with to explain Maratha connection was that Roh prefer rice over wheat like Marathas. Not sure how true it is.
Marathas being from north western Deccan arent that much into rice as much as the coastal areas and Godavari and Kaveri bank lot as rice is water intensive crop. Deccan being a dry region has its own grains.

Rors preference for rice probably hails from the British era and the irrigation reforms in the region.

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Smaller groups with a martial heritage will normally attach themselves to a larger and more well known group in an attempt to gain recognition. This can be seen with the Mohyals of Punjab and Bhumihars of Bihar both claiming Brahmin heritage. Shivaji attached himself to the Kshatriya Varna and succeeded in managing to raise the status of Marathas. I am guessing that the Rors are no different.
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Possible. The best way to verify their connection to Marathas would be looking at their surnames and clan names.
I remember a few of their surnames, perhaps we need someone from Maharashtra who could tell if they have any similarity with any Maratha clan-names.
The surnames you listed are claimed by jatland, not sure if they will be found among Marathas. Also didn't Marathas claim rajput status?
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Found this India today article:

Rods in Haryana trace their lineage to Maratha soldiers : SOCIETY & THE ARTS - India Today

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has uncovered evidence to prove that the six lakh-strong Rod community, spread across 230 villages around Panipat, has descended from the 500-odd Maratha soldiers who hid in jungles around Panipat after being scattered by Afghan Ahmad Shah Abdali's forces.
So, some 500-odd soldiers now have about 7 lakh descendants in some 250 years?
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