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Old February 1st, 2016, 07:04 PM   #31
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That is a wrong observation based on faulty secondary interpretation of primary sources as we know Krishna was born much earlier.
Even if Krishna was a historical person, what does he have to do with Jats?
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Old February 1st, 2016, 07:06 PM   #32
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Rajput is a social group of sons of Kings and many of them hail from later foreign groups(Huns Kushans ) non Hindus who were baptised to Kashtriyahood later by priests.
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Khatris /aroras are Indo Greeks or Yavanas from Bakhtr known Bakhtri shortened to khatri to elevate their social standing recently they are again changing their identity to Punjabi though many belong to afghanistan and turkmanistan areas.
They are native baniyas of punjab, nothing more nothing less.
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Old February 1st, 2016, 07:10 PM   #34
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Even if Krishna was a historical person, what does he have to do with Jats?
He is reported Jat by Al Brunie ....my post was in responce to earlier post that mentioned Jats moved to Haryana just 1000 years earlier ,when Jats were in Muthara 3000 years earlier as per Al Brunie How can we say they moved later...Just a simple logic.
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They are native baniyas of punjab, nothing more nothing less.
True observation mainly traders,
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Old February 1st, 2016, 07:13 PM   #36
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He is reported Jat by Al Brunie ....my post was in responce to earlier post that mentioned Jats moved to Haryana just 1000 years earlier ,when Jats were in Muthara 3000 years earlier as per Al Brunie How can we say they moved later...Just a simple logic.
Al Beruni is no authority in issues related to pre-medieval Indian history. There is no real evidence that the Jats even existed as a people before say 5th century CE.

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The descendents of some of the last Peshwa's family after 1857 revolt were banished to Haryana.
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Old February 1st, 2016, 07:28 PM   #38
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Al Brunie is no authority in issues related to pre-medieval Indian history. There is no real evidence that the Jats even existed as a people before say 5th century CE.
That is a pure denial of a valuable non partial historical reference.How can you put such observation.

Regarding Jats you need to read a lot earlier Indian History earliest resistance to invading arabian armies was put by Jats only.Before Kasim their second or third attempt to capture Hindustan was destroyed by Jats. Jats of gajani defeated same campaign earlier. Arabians found them so numerous that Indians were mostly treated Jats as per segrid Westphal german couple.ibn Hukkal notice them controlling all tracts from Sindh to Makran ,Sultan Ghajanvi fights with them Babbar call India a country of Jats and Gujjars Temur fought with them in Samarkand and Tohana ...Do you think they all fall in fifth century from sky and filled all Indo Pak areas to be noticed so by Arabian historians ...
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The descendents of some of the last Peshwa's family after 1857 revolt were banished to Haryana.
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The descendents of some of the last Peshwa's family after 1857 revolt were banished to Haryana.
But the Ror community is much older than 1857.

They were already widespread in numerous villages of Haryana in the early 1900s. And the British accounts from 1870s are already talking about Ror warriors and their appearance.

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In the Archaeological Survey of India Report for the year 1871-72, A.C.L. Carlleyle says about the image of a Ror warrior found at the site of Kaga Ror or Kagarol:[8]

The features of the face are fine and manly, of the handsomest Hindu type. The warrior has his right knee raised; on his right arm he presents a shield in defense and in the left hand he brandishes a straight sword of huge dimensions over his head. In a belt round his waist he wears a dagger with a cross-shaped hilt at his left side. The hair of the head is full but drawn back in straight lines on the head. Evidently, its a figure of a warrior of great strength.
I'm sorry that I'm quoting from Jatland, but this report seems to be reliable.
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The descendents of some of the last Peshwa's family after 1857 revolt were banished to Haryana.
There is no evidence of banishments...some of them and their ladies were attented and taken care by Surjmal ,one leader was given shelter as reported in a Sanghi village temple, some were looted and killed.
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