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City of the Legion of Arthur is Richborough

Posted November 14th, 2016 at 10:53 PM by gold heart

Our discovery was that the 9 battle sites of "(King) Arthur" in the 'Historia Britonum' of "Nennius" match the Saxon Shore forts of the Notita Dignitatum from Yarmouth to Portsmouth.

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The 6th site the city of the Legion is a particularly good site to focus on because it is a major site in more Arthurian sources other than just the HB.

People keep telling me to give up ("move on") but i can/will not give up because our discovery is right and it has a lot of stark evidences. People threaten me with banning so i will post blog instead. The truth is the truth, i will not be silent, i have a right to try get all our evidences given fair/decent consideration. This post on city of the legion has some good evidences in it.
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Contents:[/B][/U]

1. A CoL candidates list.
2. List of city of legions / Caerleon mentioning in sources.
3. List of points extracted from the list of CoLs/CLs in sources.)
4. Why CoL is not York, Chester, Caerleon, etc, but is our site.

[U][B]1. A CoL candidates list.[/B][/U]

'(the) city of (the) legion(s)' candidates of others &/or ours, &/or
places where legions where at sometime in Roman Britain:
caerleon/isca augusta/newport (geoff monmouth);
chester/deva victrix (jackson, peter graham, Keith J (Fitzpatrick-)Matthews);
york/eboracum (evans, hunt, malcor?);
carlisle;
exeter (OEC);
dumbarton/kairlium (McHardy, Skene);
portchester (collingwood);
richborough/rutupi (evans, me);
liganburh 571 (me);
Leominster monastery/Lann Llieni (me);
carhaix (zoetropo);
trimontium/melrose (ardrey);
colchester (legion);
cardiff (shore fort by time legion came);
Gadarenes (me);
cair lerion/leicester;
carmarthen (1000(0), me);
Cerdic'sleag(a) (though lea means wood or clearing/field, me);
leodegrance (me, zoetropo);
lost legion;
paved way of the legion;
"some other 3rd site";
"there is scattered talk of a 'legion' in ...";
"undiscovered" (gunn or todd);
dyrham 577 (arthurnet poster).

[U][B]2. List of city of legions Caerleon mentioning in sources.[/B][/U]

'Cairligion/Cair Legion'/"Chester" (HB);
'Cairlion'/"Caerleon" (HB);
‘Urbs Legionis/ligion/(Urbe) leogis’/"[the] city of (the) legion[s] /
city of Leogis" (gloss 'Caerllion/Cairlion/Carlion/Kairlium'?)
(singular) ((Irish) HB);
Lynn Liuan (army of the whole region/country, ebbs) (HB/Wonders);
Rutupi (city/orbs, legio(n) 2 augusta from caerleon) (ND/SS, Bertram);
liganburh/Lygeanburg/Lenbury 571 (ASC);
Legercy(e)stre/"Chester" ["bangor"] 606/607 [legaceaster 605?] (ASC);
Legaceaster "legion camp"/'westre ceastre' 894 (ASC);
city of legions 973 [laegeceastre 972?] (ASC);
legecester/leg(e)ceastre / St Paerburge/Paere_byrig(r) (Pa Halgan);
caer lleon on dee 917bc (24 ks & 33 cities);
caer lleon on usk 401bc (24 ks & 33 cities);
caerleon ((up)on usk) "2nd Rome" "chief city of GB" "principal
Archbishop" ad516 (24 ks & 33 cities);
140 churches, city of Lions/Lyonesse ("between land's end/Cornwall & Scilly");
Leominster/Leo-mynstre / lann Llieni/laini Llieni (12 Monasteries);
Carlion (Ywenec);
"city of legions"/civitas legionum/Civitatem Legionum … quaea
brettonibus … carlegion appelatur/"chester"/legacestir (Bede);
‘Urbs legionum / Legionum urbs (cives)’/ “city of legions” /
"Carlisle" (church) of Julius (& Aaron (& Alban)) (inaccessable)
(Gildas, Bede, [HRB]);
'legionum urbis' [plural of the female genitive 'legionis'] (more than
one legion, “somewhere, maybe Caerlleon-on-Usk”, “not Eboracum”)
(Gildas);
'jugein of legecester' (5th) (11 Consuls, HRB);
Caer-Osc / "city of legions" upon "Uske" near "Severn" sea (listed as
distinct from York) (HRB);
legion 6666 men (HRB);
'Tremounus of Legions' (HRB);
"Dyfrig/Dubricius of legions" (distinct from Sanxo of York) (HRB/AC);
David archbp of legions at the city of "Menevia" in his own abbey (HRB);
synod ‘Urbs/Urbis Legionum/Legion(is)/ligionis’/"Chester" 601/602 (AC);
battle ‘Cair/Caer Legion’/"Chester" (brocmail/"bangor") 613/614 (AC);
legionum (genitive plural) (B & C MSS);
"David bishop of Merlin's town Caerleon";
Carmarthen / (city of the) 1000(0) (soldiers) / (of the) legion?
Cuerlion (3 renowned cities, Beroul);
Lyon (Stephen de Bourbon)?
(Carhaix, prince of) Leon (Brittany)?
church/merthir Julius/Iun & Aaron Caerleon (llandaff charters);
‘urbs legionum’/"Caerlleon on Usk" (Landavensis);
‘Kaerleun Legionum urbs’/'kaer/urbs/castrum' (Gerald Cambrensis);
city (of) Leogis/'Kaerlion/Cair Lion' ("~ Caerleon/Newport") (H. of Hunt.);
Caerleon/isca augusta (legio 2 augusta) (800 ad, modern Wales);
Massacre of the 9th Legion 60/61ad;
Chester "city of legions" (inscription 1653);
Chester/Deva/Sexta/WestChester (20th/6th legion victrix);
York/Ebrauc 1 of 3 legion sites but never called city of legion;
"Civitatem Legiomtm, tunc temporis desertam, quae Saxonice
Legeceaster dicitur . . . intrant" (Florence of Worcester);
"Civitas quce Karlegion Britannice, et Legeceastre dicitur Saxonice"
(Florence of Worcester);
"Cathair Ler-eon, now West Chester" (Popular tales of the Highlands);
"there is scattered talk of a "legion"" (Uther/Kai/Bedivere?)
legion Britons at Loire 536 (St Dalmas)?
"paved way of the legion" (OEC).
[lost legion?]
"the legionaries of Britannia Minor" (Brittany) (Roman Martyrology 2004)
“Legionum civitas, quae nunc simpliciter Cestra vocatur.” (William of
Malmesbury);
chapels/chruches J&A w&e side Caerleon (17th cent, Francis Godwin);
"30 legions" 655?
CairLion (John Leland).


[U][B]3. List of points extracted from the list of CoLs/CLs in sources.[/B][/U]

From these we can fairly reasonably say a number of things including:
1. Legions must be near Dubris/Dover (Dubricius/Dyfrig).
2. Legions is near Alban (Albion/Dover).
3. Nennius urbs legion is different to his 2 legion cities in cities list.
4. Legions/Dubricius is distinct from York/Sanxo.
5. Legions is on/by a river like the Uske [but Uske is "Uske"].
6. Legions is at lands end extremity by an island similar to Lyonesse.
7. the legion of city of legions is legio augusta since "caerleon"?
8. Legions was inaccesible/deserted/waste at time of Gildas/etc. This
rules out Caerleon and Chester?
9. York was never called city of Legion.
10. Legions is near a Lynn Liuan / Ebbs site (not necessarily the one
near Caerleon) and near [one of the 7 mouths of the] "Severn" (see our
evidences that this is not the western one).
11. Legions is part of a set of 9 battle sites, & one of 3 renowned
cities. Legions is near Guinnion.
12. Trimontium has some sort of "lifted/recycled" link with city of
the legion. This might link with Triputiensis/Rutupi, or Trinovantum
(there as some possible indications of links between London and
Richborough), and/or Cruc Mawr?
13. West Chester implies and east Chester? [Newport imply old port??]
14. the extended version of Watling street links Rutupi and Chester.
15. Nennius/HB doesn't say it "is called" city of legion (though
perhaps he impliesit was known as that then to his audience?)
Nennius/HB also doesn't say when the legion was there, if it was there
at the time? (Maybe experts can say whether his/its original language
wording certainly implies that or not?) Legion Britons at Loire 536
(St Dalmas)? there was a lost legion?
16. Legions is particularly linked with a St Julius. Therfore Julius
provides possible links with other sources like maybe Julius Caesar's
landing, calends of Julius 540, calends of July of Padarn, etc (which
all imply Richborough/Rutupi).
The St Julius tradition of Chester is admitted scanty evidence;
17. Chester & Caerleon are not strategic. Too far west/north.
"Arthur" fought the (West) Saxons. There were not any/many Saxons in
west & north then. (West) Saxons were mainly between Wash & Solent
(which matches Saxon Shore).
Britons not limited to Wales & Cumbria & Cornwall until after Dyrham
and Chester);
18. Rutupi has match for city/urbs (city/civitas/orbs), and for
legion/legions, and for carlion, for 6th/5th of 9, and lots of other
things.
19. Caerleon/Chester/York can not be Liganburh 571.
20. city of legions is near (down road from) a "Bangor" site.
21. the correct site must be called urbs/city not chester/camp.
22. battle of Chester is wrong date, wrong outcome.
23. city of legion is linked with St Paerburge (or Werburgh?)
[Padarn?] (Chester's Werburgh can have been "lifted".)
24. city of legion singular is primary correct, the plural legions may
not be but might also be secondarily correct? (Richborough had 1
legion, it also had plural legions though scholars dispute where Roman
invasion legions landed).
25. city of legion may be linked with 1000?
26. Legions was a/the chief city/metropolis, "2nd Rome", one of 3
renowned cities. (So was Rutupi/Richborough.)
27. city of legion had a minster/church of Julius. Had 140 "churches".
It is also near another city with an abbey.
28. Is it beyond doubt fact the city of legion of Bede, AC, etc is Chester?
29. Legions is near an Aaron place name site. (Avalon?)
30. city of Legion is solidly linked to number 6th/5th.
31. AC has two different city of legions, one is urbs, other is caer.
32. Nennius/HB didn't say "on Usk".
33. Caerleon in west is sort-of analogous to Richborouh in east?
34. Caerleon legion was also/later at Rutupi/Richborough.
35. "How Deva came to be the name of Chester or the Castra
Legionis (whence the Welsh Caer Lleon) is not clear"?
36. Is near Isneldone/"Snowdon" "snow hill".
37. the Round Table is there a city of legions. (Chester amphitheatre
and Caerleon amphithheatre have both been assoicated. Richborough also
has a starkly round amphitheatre.)
38. some of the Wonders of Nennius match our Richborough site. Lynn
Liuan matches roughly Ebbsfleet; Cruc Mawr matches the "large
crucifrom platform" at Richborough.
39. "the fastness/dwellings of Dissethach" (5th) of PaGur match Lynn
Liuan and city of the legion (6th) and Rutupi/Richborough/Ebbsfleet
(5th).
40. Orthodox scholars can't even decide/prove for sure which site
(Chester, or Caeleon (or York)) the city of the legion supposedly is.
41. Some of the sources may be evdience that Richborough was called
city of the legion (eg Pa Halgan?)
42. city of the legion has some link with a "Jerusalem" not too far away.
43. not*the*cityofthelegion.
44. in a "Minor" part of Britannia/Britain.


[U][B]4. Why CoL is not York, Chester, Caerleon, etc, but is our site.[/B][/U]


York/Ebrauc/Sextae can not be city of the legion (CoL) of Arthur of
Nennius because:
- CoL and York are mentioned as distinct places in Arthurian sources.
- CoL was archbishop Dubricius, and York was archbishop Sanxo.
- CoL has St Julius (Julius Caesar?) York has no St Julius (Julius Caesar).
- CoL is close to St Alban (Dover/Albion). York is not close to St Alban.
- Has no match for 2/3 close to each other Saints sites (Julius/CoL,
Aaron & Alban).
- York was not ever called city of the legion (though zoetropo claims
it was somewhere).
- Wrong legion. Arthurian sources imply legio 2 augusta because say "caerleon".
- Not strategic. Too far North. Not anymuch (West) Saxons (not Angles)
there then. Arthur was fighting the (West) Saxons. The (Anglo-/West)
Saxons were mainly between the Wash and Solent (which matches our
Saxon Shore).
- York is not number 6 in an attested set of 9 battle sites which all
match Nennius in order.
- Even orthodox academics favour Chester or Caerleon and don't favour York.
- Orthodox and everyone can not even decide/prove which of their "only
3 possible" sites (Caerleon, Chester, York) CoL supposedly is.
- We have a CoL site and 9 sites match(es) which are far stronger in evidences.
- Does not have any Dubricius match like ours has.
- ASC 571 Lygeanburg/Liganburh can not be York.
- CoL is on/by a river "Uske", York is on/by Ure.
- CoL is at lands end extremity by an island similar to Lyonesse,while
York is not really.

Chester/Deva Victrix can not be city of the legion (CoL) of Arthur of
Nennius because:
- Does not have any Dubricius match like ours has. [The only
possibility could be Deverdoeu [Dyfrdwy] but wouldn't be
"linguistically sound".]
- CoL has St Julius (Julius Caesar?) Chester has no provable St Julius
(Julius Caesar) origins connection. The tradition of Sts Julius &
Aaron at Chester is admitted weak/no evidence.
- CoL is close to St Alban (Dover/Albion). Chester is not close to St
Alban (though source claims Chester is the white city).
- Has no match for 2/3 close to each other Saints sites (Julius/CoL,
Aaron & Alban).
- Wrong legion (Victrix). Arthurian sources imply legio 2 augusta
because say "Caerleon".
- Not strategic. Too far North and West. Not anymuch (West) Saxons
(not Angles) there then. Arthur was fighting the (West) Saxons. The
(Anglo-/West) Saxons were mainly between the Wash and Solent (which
matches our Saxon Shore).
- The Britons were not limited by Saxons to Wales and Cumbria until
after the battle of Chester in 600s according to orthodox academics
own sources.
- Chester is not number 6 in an attested set of 9 battle sites which
all match Nennius in numeric and geographic order. You can not just
base an identification on only one or a few of the 9 battle sites.
- Orthodox and everyone can not even decide/prove which of their "only
3 possible" sites (Caerleon, Chester, York) CoL supposedly is.
- We have a CoL site and 9 sites match(es) which are far stronger in evidences.
- Chester 600s ad battle is the wrong/different time/date, wrong
battle outcome, wrong/different leader.
- The later battle not just source would have been copied from the earlier.
- legion camp/chester may conflict with legion city/orbs?
- "Gildas clearly states that this place [city of the legion] is
unacessable to British people. If this was Chester it would hardly be
unacessable." And/or, other sources seem to imply CoL was deserted
&/or waste? Chester is "just down the road from Bangor"?]
- You can not just base an identification on only one or a few details
of the battle site (like name match), and on only one or a few of the
9 battle sites.
- The amphitheatre Round Table tradition of Chester is rivaled by the
amphitheatre RT tradition of Caerleon, and is rivaled by our
discovered amphitheatre possible RT of Richborough/Rutupi.
- ASC 571 Lygeanburg/Liganburh can not be Chester.
- West Chester implies an east Chester?
- the extended version of Watling street links 2 city of legion
candidates Richborough/Rutupi and Chester.
- Chester's Werburgh (Paerburge?) can have been "lifted".
- Nennius' 'urbs/city of legion' is different to his 2 legion cities
in his cities of Britain list ('Cairligion/Cair Legion'/"Chester", and
'Cairlion'/"Caerleon").
- CoL is on/by a river "Uske", Chester is on/by Deva/Dee.
- "Chester" 613 not mentioned in Chronicle of Werburgh?
- "How Deva came to be the name of Chester or the Castra Legionis
(whence the Welsh Caer Lleon) is not clear"?
- Is it beyond doubt fact the city of legion of Bede, AC, etc is Chester?
- The 2 AC/WA city of legion entries maybe well be different places:
synod ‘Urbs/Urbis Legionum/Legion(is)/ligionis’/"Chester" 601/602
(AC), and battle ‘Cair/Caer Legion’/"Chester" (brocmail/"bangor")
613/614 (AC).
- I don't think that Chester qualifies as CoL which was "2nd
Rome"/"chief city of Britain"/"principal archbishop" etc?
- If they can claim our site supposedly didn't have a legion at the
time of Arthur/Nennius, well then their own site certainly does not?
- Aurelius/Ambrosius was Roman-blooded. Chester is inthe unromanised
region of britain not in romanised region of britain in the map
"Post-Roman Britain (Anglo-Saxon Cemeteries) (based on Jones &
Mattingly's Atlas of Roman Britain)".
- Germanus battle Maes Garmon near Mold [near Chester] is dubious.
Germanus rather had links with St Alban who can only be in Kent/Downs.
- St Augustine synod at "Chester" ['Augustine's Ac' "Augustine's Oak"
"on the borders of the Hwiccas" c603?] also seems dubious to me?
Augustine landed in area of Ebbsfleet not far from Richborough.
(Though Ethelbert did extend his sphere to Humber.) (Richborough had
legio 2 Augusta. KA had Augusel?)
- Julius & Aaron can't be in two places at sametime (both Chester &
Caerleon have traditional claims).
- Mari Lwyd (St Mary) in Caerleon similar to Hoodening in Padstow
(Petroc's, Cornwall), & in Kent, & in Cheshire. This links 3 city of
legions sites.
- If "Arthur" fought at "Chester" then the Saxons took a long time to
take it back (or Arthur travelled/conquered a large distance area)?
- Gildas says "neither to this day are our cities inhabited ...
forsaken & overthrown" [which fits ASC 571 & 577]. Surely Chester was
not uninhabited by Britons in Gildas' lifetime before the battle of
Chester?

Caerleon/Isca Augusta/Isca Silurium can not be city of the legion
(CoL) of Arthur of Nennius because:
- Nennius doesn't say "(up)on Usk";
- it was not inaccessible (Gildas) or deserted or waste.
- CoL has St Julius (Julius Caesar?) Caerleon has no St Julius (Julius
Caesar) origins match.
- CoL is close to St Alban (Dover/Albion). Chester is not close to St Alban.
- Has no match for 2/3 close to each other Saints sites (Julius/CoL,
Aaron & Alban).
- Not strategic. Too far West. Not anymuch (West) Saxons (not Angles)
there then. Arthur was fighting the (West) Saxons. The (Anglo-/West)
Saxons were mainly between the Wash and Solent (which matches our
Saxon Shore).
- The Britons were not limited by Saxons to Wales and Cornwall until
after Dyrham in 577, and to not Wales and Cumbria until after the
battle of Chester in 600s according to orthodox academics own sources.
"Wurdesten speaks of the Britons leaving their ancestral land when the
Saxons occupied it"?
- Caerleon is not number 6 in an attested set of 9 battle sites which
all match Nennius in order.
- Some orthodox academics favour Chester over Caerleon
- Orthodox and everyone can not even decide/prove which of their "only
3 possible" sites (Caerleon, Chester, York) CoL supposedly is.
- We have a CoL site and 9 sites match(es) which are far stronger in evidences.
- Does not have any Dubricius match like ours has.
- The Round Table was at CoL. The amphitheatre Round Table tradition
of Caerleon is rivaled by the amphitheatre RT tradition of Chester,
and is rivaled by our discovered amphitheatre possible RT of
Richborough/Rutupi.
- ASC 571 Lygeanburg/Liganburh can not be Caerleon.
[- Newport imply an old port??]
- Nennius' 'urbs/city of legion' is different to his 2 legion cities
in his cities of Britain list ('Cairligion/Cair Legion'/"Chester", and
'Cairlion'/"Caerleon").
- CoL is on/by a river "Uske", but "Uske" can be analogous/lifted/wrong.
- Legions is at lands end extremity by an island similar to Lyonesse.
Caerleon is not really so.
- Caerleon legion was also/later at Rutupi/Richborough.
If they can claim our site supposedly didn't have a legion at the
time of Arthur/Nennius, well then their own site certainly does not?
- Caerleon in west is sort-of analogous to Richborough in east?
- Orthodox are wrong to adamantly assert that there are only 2 or 3
candidates (Caerleon, Chester, (York)) because they are the only 2
known places called city/camp of the legion, and the 3 established
legionary bases in Roman Britain. There were legions at some other
places in history of Roman Britain, including at Rutupi/Richborough.
- Julius & Aaron can't be in two places at sametime (both Chester &
Caerleon have traditional claims).
- Mari Lwyd (St Mary) in Caerleon similar to Hoodening in Padstow
(Petroc's, Cornwall), & in Kent, & in Cheshire. This links 3 city of
legions sites.
- I have yet to check if the Mynde of Caerleon could link with our
Cruc Mawr of Richborough (&/or Tremounus/Trimontium)?
- Was Caerleon called that before 800 ad?

Carhaix (Brittany) can not be city of the legion (CoL) of Arthur of
Nennius because:
- Nennius/HB says the island of Britian, ruling-out Brittany (except
for analogy/lifted/recycled).
- CoL has St Julius (Julius Caesar?) Brittany does not have as
good/strong St Julius (Julius Caesar) origins matches as
Richborough/Rutupi does.
- CoL is close to St Alban (Dover/Albion). Brittany is not close to St Alban.
- Has no match for 2/3 close to each other Saints sites (Julius/CoL,
Aaron & Alban).
- Not sure any Brittany site was ever called city of the legion?
- Wrong legion. Arthurian sources imply legio 2 augusta because say "caerleon".
- Not strategic. Too far away. Not anymuch (West) Saxons (not Angles)
there then. Arthur was fighting the (West) Saxons. The (Anglo-/West)
Saxons were mainly between the Wash and Solent (which matches our
Saxon Shore).
- Brittany site is not number 6 in an attested set of 9 battle sites
which all match Nennius 9 sites in order.
- Orthodox academics favour only Chester or Caerleon or York and don't
favour Brittany.
- We have a CoL site and 9 sites match(es) which are far stronger in evidences.
- Does not have any Dubricius match like ours has.
- Gwenedeg/Vannes and Leon are only analogous lifted/recycled
namesakes of Guinnion and Legions/CoL.
- it was not inaccessible (Gildas) &/or deserted &/or waste.
- ASC 571 Lygeanburg/Liganburh can not be in Brittany.

CoL can not be Trimontium (Ardrey).

CoL can not be Portchester (Collingwood).

CoL/"CL" can not be Dumbarton/Kairlium (McHardy, Skene).
- Dumbarton/Dunbrettan "fort of the Britons/Britain" aka Alcluith (ail
"rock" + river Clyde) actually points to being an analogous namesake
"lifted" from Dover/Braddon (Guinnion / Badon 1) as the fort of
Albion?

City of the Legion of Arthur of Nennius can only be Richborough because:
- CoL and York are mentioned as distinct places in Arthurian sources.
Richborough is distinct to/from York.
- CoL was archbishop Dubricius, Richborough is close to Dubris/Dover
(&/or to Doruvernis/Canterbury). (Confirmed by Dubriactus in
Taliesin?)
- CoL has St Julius (Julius Caesar?) Richbrough has St Julius (Julius
Caesar) origins. Calends of Julius 540, and calends of July of Padarn
also imply Richborough as best match for CoL. No coincidence that date
of St(s) Julius (& Aaron) is 1st of July.
City of legion had a church of Julius. The "church of Julius" might be
(the building over) the large cruciform platform?
(- CoL had a minster &/or church. I think i saw that Richborough had a
church &/or a ["church"] building/monument?)
- CoL is close to St Alban (Dover/Albion). Richbrough is close to St
Alban (Dover/white/Albion/Downs).
Rutupiae built 277-285, and St Alban martyr 283?
St Alban is linked with St Germanus. The grave of St Alban seems to be
the cruciform platform at Richborough, and may be same as grave of
Gawain at Rutupi/Peryddon; it may be grave of Labienus?
(Albinus Abbot of St Augustine's, Canterbury??)
If Julius is Julius Caeasr then maybe (Aaron is Antony (or Augustus)
or Androgius/Andragius/Androgorius/Mandubracius, and) Alban is
Laberius/Labienus who died there when Julius Caesar first
invaded/landed?
Amphibalus ("cloak"?) of "Caerleon" may perhaps relate to either
amphitheatre of Richborough, amphibian landing of Caesar/Claudius, or
Androgius? (Amphibalus is also in Winchester, while Arthurian
"Winchester"/Guintonhi is Guinnion/Dover.)
- Has a match for 2/3 close to each other Saints sites (Julius/CoL is
Richborough/Legion, Aaron is Reculver/Bassas/Avalon, Alban is
Dover/Guinnion).
- Rutupi has match for city/urbs (city/civitas/orbs), and for
legion/legions (legio 2 augusta).
Richborough has match for carlion (legio 2 augusta at Rutupi was "from
Caerleon").
The only one reason people reject Richborough (aside from one
Britons/Saxons/battle/legion archaeological question) is because they
insist we have to show it was also called that in another source, and
because they claim supposedly no legion there then at time of
Arthur/Nennius.
There are maybe a couple/few sources evidencing that
Richborough/Rutupi was called city of the legion (like maybe Pa
Halgan?)
- Right legion. Arthurian sources imply legio 2 augusta because they
say "caerleon" (and "Augusel"?), this legion was also/later at
Richborough/Rutupi.
- Is strategic. There were many/much (West) Saxons (not Angles) there
then. Arthur was fighting the (West) Saxons (Cerdic, Colgrin,
Baldulf). Colingwood said Nennius' words imply Arthur was fighting
Kentishmen. The (Anglo-/West) Saxons were mainly between the Wash and
Solent (which matches our Saxon Shore).
- Richborough is number 5/6 in an attested set of 9 battle sites which
all match Nennius in order.
(Cross-switch match of 6th battle / 5th battle site confirmed between
sources: City of Legion 6th (HB), Dissethach 5th (PG),
Leominster/Lynn-Liuan 6th/7th (12 Monasteries), Lynn Liuan 6th
(Wonders), Legecester 5th (HRB), Richborough/Rutupi 5th/7th.)
City of the Legion is near Guinnion, and/or is near either Celidon,
Bassas, or Tribruit.
Richborough/Rutupi (CoL) is near Dover/Dubris (Guinnion), and near
Reculver (Bassas), and Weald (Celidon), and not terribly far away via
2 connecting roads from Lemanis (Tribruit) in same Kent porvince.
- Some other academics like Evans have suggested Richborough/Rutupi,
they only dismissed it because they believed south-east was
Anglo-Saxon.
- Orthodox and everyone can not even decide/prove which of their "only
3 possible" sites (Caerleon, Chester, York) CoL supposedly is.
- Richborough/Rutupi and all our 9 sites have strong/stark match(es)
evidences which are far stronger than others sites.
- "Britannia Minor" could refer to some minor-like prominent
part/province/promonitory of Britain/Britannia such as the
Downs/Weald/Kent/Albion?
- it qualifies for inaccessible (Gildas) &/or deserted &/or waste.
- The Round Table was at CoL. The amphitheatre (possible Round Table)
of Richborough is analogous to the amphitheatre RT tradition of
Caerleon, and the amphitheatre RT tradition of Chester.
- Some of the Wonders of Britain match Richborough/Rutupi, especially
Cruc Mawr (large cruciform platform at Richborough), Lynn Liuan.
CoL is by Lynn Liuan (eg Leominster & Linn Liuan, Caerleon & Lynn
Liuan). Lynn Liuan seems to match Richborough/Rutupi (or Ebbsfleet?)
area.
("The fastness/dwellings of Dissethach" of Pa Gur (5th) matches City
of the Legion of Nennius/HB (6th), and matches Lynn Liuan (6th in HB,
5th in 12 Monasteries), and matches Richborough/Rutupi (5th).)
- ASC 571 Lygeanburg/Liganburh can/could possibly be in Kent in my
opinion from certain evidences in ASC etc.
- Trimontium (Adam Ardrey) has some sort of "lifted/recycled" link
with Tremounus of [city of] Legions (HRB). This might link with
Triputiensis/Rutupi, or Trinovantum/"London" (there as some possible
indications of links between London and Richborough, though name
supposed to be from Trinovantes not New Troy), and/or with Cruc Mawr
(large cruciform platform at Richborough)?
- The extended version of Watling street links 2 city of legion
candidates Richborough/Rutupi and Chester.
- Nennius' 'urbs/city of legion' is different to his 2 legion cities
in his cities of Britain list ('Cairligion/Cair Legion'/"Chester", and
'Cairlion'/"Caerleon").
- CoL is on/by a river like the Uske [but "Uske" can be
analogous/lifted]. Richborough is similaril on/near a river
((Wantsum-)Stour).
- CoL is at lands end extremity by an island similar to Lyonesse.
Richborough is at analogous opposite lands end, and by Thanet (and/or
archaelogists say Richborough/Rutupi was once (on) an island?)
- CoL is maybe down road from a "Bangor" (& an abbey) site analgously
like Chester is? "Bangor" & abbey might link with Reculver
(Bassas/Avalon) (& monastery-church)?
- City of legion is linked with St Paerburge (or Werburgh? (Chester's
Werburgh can have been "lifted".)) Paerburge may link with metropolis
of Padarn & 3 solemnities/churches of Padarn which seem to match
Richborough.
- CoL is near Isneldone/"Snowdon" "snow hill". This matches
Richborough near a Snowdown and near Dover (white/Albion).
- CoL is city of the legion singularwhich matches Richborough/Rutupi.
The plural city of (the) legions may not be correct, or it may be
secondarily correct. The city of (the) legions plural could also match
Richborough/Rutupi as landing place of Roman invasion legions, though
scholars dispute/debate where the landing place was.
- CoL may be linked with number 1000(0) (via Carmarthen, via Taliesin
1000 sons)? [I sure i saw it said that Richborough/Rutupi held about
1000?]
"the II Augusta had reduced a lot [to 1/10]";
"Legio 2nd Britannica ... just 1,000 strong by then [ear 5th cent?]".
- CoL was a/the "2nd Rome. … chief city of the isle of britain …
priveleges & rank … principal Archbishop…." (and "loved & honored
Caerleon on the Usk more than any other place"); "one of the most
important cities in Britain"; "metropolitan see", "KA's capital"; CoL
was one of "3 renowned cities". ("Metropolis of Padarn".)
Rutupi/Richborough was "their primary station / the metropolis / this
city was of such celebrity that" ("Richard of Cirencester"/"Bretram").
(Richborough/Rutupi is one of the best preserved Roman sites in
Britain.)
Taliesin's Gwallawg battles seem to parallel Nennius' Arthur battles,
Taliesin's Gwensteri key to Lloegyr corresponds to Nennius' city of
the legion and fits Rutupi/Richborough.
(Thanet also had a name that is similar looking/sounding to "Rome"?)
- Caer Lleon and "Jerusalem" were built about the same time (ref '24
kings & 33 cities') implying it was close to a "Jerusalem" site. It
appears that "Jerusalem" (cross) is "Verulam/Uerolamiensem" / "St
Alban's" (Gildas) which is Dover/Dubris (white/Albion) which is
Guinnion (cross).
- Richborough in east is sort-of analogous to Caerleon in west?
- Mari Lwyd (St Mary) in Caerleon similar to Hoodening in Padstow
(Petroc's, Cornwall), & in Kent, & in Cheshire. This links 3 city of
legions sites, or 4 if Padstow/Petroc is linked with our metropolis of
Padarn/Paternus?

[U]Harmony & melody table for 'City of the Legion'/Richborough (left) &
Guinnion/Dover (right):[/U]
6/9 city of the legion - 5/8 castellum/fort(let) guinnion (Nennius/HB);
"Leo(n)degrance father - of Guinevere (post-Vulgate cycle)"?
Lygeanburg/Liganburh - Egonesham/Ignesham (571 ASC/Ethelwerd);
7/6 Leominster - 6/7 Glasgwin? (12 Monasteries);
(Carhaix, Prince of) Leon - Vannes (Breton/Brittany);
Lyon - St Guinefort (Stephen de Bourbon);
‘urbs legionum’/"Caerlleon on Usk" - 'Guentonia urbs'/'urbs
Guenti'/"Caerwent" (Landavensis);
Carlion - Caerwent/Doglas/Avoez (Ywenec)?
5 Jugein of Legecester - 6 Cursalem of Kaicester (11 Consuls/HRB);
"Caer Lleon" - "Jerusalem" ["Verulam"] ('24 kings & 33 cities');
[5] Legeceastre/Paerburge - 6 Doferum/Martinus (Pa Halgan);
Legions - Dubricius (Geoff/HRB);
5/7 rutupi (legio 2 augusta) - 6/2 dubris (ND/SS);
5 richborough - 6 dover (Modern);
St Julius - St Alban (Gildas/Bede/Geoff/HRB);
Locrin - Albanact (Geoff/HRB);
Cuerlion - chastel de Snowdon/Isneldone "snow hill" (3 renowned cities/Beroul);
5 Dissethach - 6 Mt Eidyn / Eidyn 2 ('Pa Gur');
calends Julius 540 - calends Martii 538 (ASC/Ethelwerd);
[6/9] Gwensteri, Lloegyr - [4/6] Arddunion (Lleenawg/Gwallawg/Taliesin);
Sant-iago de Compostela? - Santa Maria de Bretona (Galicia)?
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