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Old February 9th, 2015, 04:36 AM   #11
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The reason why "fluoride gets in gardens and food etc too" is because fluorides are naturally-occurring minerals and are found in all soils and water supplies. The fluoridation programme tops up this level but it is way way below anything that is remotely toxic. This programme has been going for half a century in Australia with no evidence of people suffering from fluoride toxicity. The few towns that don't fluoridate their water have much higher rates of tooth decay than those that do.

Smart meters are designed to make electricity distribution fair for everyone. Right now people who use high amounts of electricity during peak periods are being subsidised by people who don't. Smart meters make it easier to charge for using electricity during peak periods when electricity is most expensive.
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Sorry but that is all mainstream lies/BS. See my blog post on fluoridation (link in my profile). See other sites too like fannz (though i think they have changed their site name now).

Natural fluoride is natural. Artificial fluoridation is not. What isnot natural is them fuilling all our food with sugar (ingredients lists are in order of amount), etc.
I don't care what anyone else chooses to eat/drink (and wash in, etc), but i object to them forcing it on us public. Clean running water is an essential necessity of modern life (as is electricity). It is blatantly unfair and contradiction that English world fluoridates while mainland Europe and Russia etc don't. Even here they only fluoridate the towns not rural, and only half the country('s settlements) not all country, and only "half" the world not all. Why?
In my own experience i have been worse on fluoridated water and less worse when not on it (eg sleep worse/better, more/less balding, studies in/abilities, dry mouth, thyroid, no/dreams, etc) (and is evidences i have seen/heard in my research on it, and observation of effects on others).
The blatant Truth is that the answer to "increased incidence of childrens tooth decay" and to fluoridation BS is 1 sugar, 2 oral cleanliness, 3 diet ((processed) carbs), 3 diet (nutrition), 4 socio-economic inequalities, etc.

Smart meters are only servicing the "economic/business" interests/objectives of the power retalers (and powers that be) as the power "market" electricity authority admit, not the interests of "consumers" as they claim on the other hand. Smart meters have concerns of 1 health/ability effects, 2 multiple privacy/surveilance/exploitation concerns (they take half hourly readiungs, can deaggreate what things we are using and when we are using them, they sell our "consumer behaviour" info to other parties, etc), and 3 increased costs (esp with new time of use charges).
As for the high/low power users it is not true if i understand you correctly. I know from personal experience that they want to try force us to use as little ads possible, and that i have been penalised when using little too because of line charges, and that all they care about is shareholders profits.

Thats good about classics in Aust unis anyway if true. Maybe what i was told here is not true. (As i have found with many things in life (incld smart meters), people are always telling us different things and/or not true things.)

Deniz also said "I think you complain fluoridation in the Australia. This fluoridation is doing in Turkey too and I think this isn't a importnant thing."

Good for you if you don't care about possible health/ability effects and clean running water. But for some of us this is a very important issue in where we can/can't shift to or stay/survive in.
Clean running water is an essential necessity of life. Can't do much with out water.
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I've heard the White Tails and Redbacks have been traveling all over the world. I guess the Redbacks are becoming a problem in Japan. Wait, the Koala Bears eat the spiders? How the hell do they not get bit?
They do, it's why they're venomous
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I can't discuss off-topic so i will just reply this once only on this:

Sorry but that is all mainstream lies/BS. See my blog post on fluoridation (link in my profile). See other sites too like fannz (though i think they have changed their site name now).

Natural fluoride is natural. Artificial fluoridation is not. What isnot natural is them fuilling all our food with sugar (ingredients lists are in order of amount), etc.
I don't care what anyone else chooses to eat/drink (and wash in, etc), but i object to them forcing it on us public. Clean running water is an essential necessity of modern life (as is electricity). It is blatantly unfair and contradiction that English world fluoridates while mainland Europe and Russia etc don't. Even here they only fluoridate the towns not rural, and only half the country('s settlements) not all country, and only "half" the world not all. Why?
In my own experience i have been worse on fluoridated water and less worse when not on it (eg sleep worse/better, more/less balding, studies in/abilities, dry mouth, thyroid, no/dreams, etc) (and is evidences i have seen/heard in my research on it, and observation of effects on others).
The blatant Truth is that the answer to "increased incidence of childrens tooth decay" and to fluoridation BS is 1 sugar, 2 oral cleanliness, 3 diet ((processed) carbs), 3 diet (nutrition), 4 socio-economic inequalities, etc.

Smart meters are only servicing the "economic/business" interests/objectives of the power retalers (and powers that be) as the power "market" electricity authority admit, not the interests of "consumers" as they claim on the other hand. Smart meters have concerns of 1 health/ability effects, 2 multiple privacy/surveilance/exploitation concerns (they take half hourly readiungs, can deaggreate what things we are using and when we are using them, they sell our "consumer behaviour" info to other parties, etc), and 3 increased costs (esp with new time of use charges).
As for the high/low power users it is not true if i understand you correctly. I know from personal experience that they want to try force us to use as little ads possible, and that i have been penalised when using little too because of line charges, and that all they care about is shareholders profits.

Thats good about classics in Aust unis anyway if true. Maybe what i was told here is not true. (As i have found with many things in life (incld smart meters), people are always telling us different things and/or not true things.)

Deniz also said "I think you complain fluoridation in the Australia. This fluoridation is doing in Turkey too and I think this isn't a importnant thing."

Good for you if you don't care about possible health/ability effects and clean running water. But for some of us this is a very important issue in where we can/can't shift to or stay/survive in.
Clean running water is an essential necessity of life. Can't do much with out water.
You can buy water in the markets. Things that don't kill us makes us stronger

I don't hear any death for Fluoridation.
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It's the Blue Ringed Octopus that scares me....that thing can kill you with one look.
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Old February 10th, 2015, 12:54 AM   #15

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I can't discuss off-topic so i will just reply this once only on this:

Sorry but that is all mainstream lies/BS. See my blog post on fluoridation (link in my profile). See other sites too like fannz (though i think they have changed their site name now).

Natural fluoride is natural. Artificial fluoridation is not. What isnot natural is them fuilling all our food with sugar (ingredients lists are in order of amount), etc.
I don't care what anyone else chooses to eat/drink (and wash in, etc), but i object to them forcing it on us public. Clean running water is an essential necessity of modern life (as is electricity). It is blatantly unfair and contradiction that English world fluoridates while mainland Europe and Russia etc don't. Even here they only fluoridate the towns not rural, and only half the country('s settlements) not all country, and only "half" the world not all. Why?
In my own experience i have been worse on fluoridated water and less worse when not on it (eg sleep worse/better, more/less balding, studies in/abilities, dry mouth, thyroid, no/dreams, etc) (and is evidences i have seen/heard in my research on it, and observation of effects on others).
The blatant Truth is that the answer to "increased incidence of childrens tooth decay" and to fluoridation BS is 1 sugar, 2 oral cleanliness, 3 diet ((processed) carbs), 3 diet (nutrition), 4 socio-economic inequalities, etc.

Smart meters are only servicing the "economic/business" interests/objectives of the power retalers (and powers that be) as the power "market" electricity authority admit, not the interests of "consumers" as they claim on the other hand. Smart meters have concerns of 1 health/ability effects, 2 multiple privacy/surveilance/exploitation concerns (they take half hourly readiungs, can deaggreate what things we are using and when we are using them, they sell our "consumer behaviour" info to other parties, etc), and 3 increased costs (esp with new time of use charges).
As for the high/low power users it is not true if i understand you correctly. I know from personal experience that they want to try force us to use as little ads possible, and that i have been penalised when using little too because of line charges, and that all they care about is shareholders profits.

Thats good about classics in Aust unis anyway if true. Maybe what i was told here is not true. (As i have found with many things in life (incld smart meters), people are always telling us different things and/or not true things.)

Deniz also said "I think you complain fluoridation in the Australia. This fluoridation is doing in Turkey too and I think this isn't a importnant thing."

Good for you if you don't care about possible health/ability effects and clean running water. But for some of us this is a very important issue in where we can/can't shift to or stay/survive in.
Clean running water is an essential necessity of life. Can't do much with out water.
Ah yes we should all listen to some whack job on the internet not proper scientific studies.
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Is this things lives in Australia ?
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Is this things lives in Australia ?
Those are only baby ones. Adults are about the size of a buffalo. They usually only eat dingos, not people, so they aren't worth worrying about.
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For those who want some facts about water fluoridation in Australia
Fluoride FAQs
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I've heard the White Tails and Redbacks have been traveling all over the world. I guess the Redbacks are becoming a problem in Japan. Wait, the Koala Bears eat the spiders? How the hell do they not get bit?
Dropbears aren't koala bears. They are related to each other but the dropbear is carnivorous. Koalas only eat eucalyptus leaves.
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For those who want some facts about water fluoridation in Australia
Fluoride FAQs
I love that fact that the only negative thing someone's said is about Australia having fluoride in the water.
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