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Old March 28th, 2016, 11:53 PM   #41
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Well what about female mtDNA? Indigenous females would have a better chance of surviving invaders than their loser males. Mine is U5b2b2. But at the usual crude testing level, it is U5b or just U5. That is generally regarded as western European, or at least not coming from Asia. I have 3 HVR1 U5 matches from Hungary. I speculate that they are aboriginal female lines, and not brought in by Magyars or other Asian invaders. My own maternal line came from the UK.

Why do you call people from the URAL as Asians?

Unlike IE speakers, Hungarian speak finno-ugric languages which had European origin (Baltic Sea - URAL region), however IE people spoke Asian origin (Anatolian) languages.
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Old March 28th, 2016, 11:55 PM   #42
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Map about the genetic distance of European nations
http://spittoon.23andme.com/wp-conte...logpostfig.jpg

The autosomal DNA TEST of European nations (genetic distance between European populations):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic...NPs_.282009.29


Only Autosomal tests are reliable for each ethnic groups, because it involves both maternal and paternal ancestry.
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I suggest also to check these topic:

Anthropological photos of some European nations (group photos)
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Why do you call people from the URAL as Asians?

Unlike IE speakers, Hungarian speak finno-ugric languages which had European origin (Baltic Sea - URAL region), however IE people spoke Asian origin (Anatolian) languages.
Yeah, well, it's a matter of opinion/perspective. I used to classify everyone from behind the Iron Curtain as Asiatics, ha ha. Anyway, don't change my subject, which is about female mtDNA.

By the way, my Y-DNA haplogroup is R1a (from Norway).
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Yeah, well, it's a matter of opinion/perspective. I used to classify everyone from behind the Iron Curtain as Asiatics, ha ha. Anyway, don't change my subject, which is about female mtDNA.

By the way, my Y-DNA haplogroup is R1a (from Norway).
R1A has Central Asian origin.
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R1A has Central Asian origin.
Yes, I know. Fierce dudes on horseback, I imagine.
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Yes, I know. Fierce dudes on horseback, I imagine.

Wrong, all haplogroups existed from the era of Paleolithic stone axes
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Discussing genetics will quickly get this thread closed.

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Discussing genetics will quickly get this thread closed.
Besides not giving a lot of answers

Btw (sorry, I really don't remember where I heard it, and I can't check it now), on the "Magyar" word: wasn't an Arab traveler / geographer talking about something like "al-Maghiari" at the turn of the first millennium already?
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Besides not giving a lot of answers
I've got used to it whenever I open a thread about Hungary, sadly.

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Btw (sorry, I really don't remember where I heard it, and I can't check it now), on the "Magyar" word: wasn't an Arab traveler / geographer talking about something like "al-Maghiari" at the turn of the first millennium already?
Tulun's post #32 here has a nice explanation of it.
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