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Old January 12th, 2010, 07:05 PM   #1

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Anne Boleyn; Guilty or Innocent



I thought it would fun to retry this case with the evidence now given and decide was Anne Boleyn guilty charges of committing adultery and plotting the Kinds death, or innocent of these charges. Also state who was behind her downfall, Henry, Cromwell, The Seymour’s or some one else?

Have your vote and give a reason why.

Alison Weir’s new book “The Lady In the Tower” The Fall of Anne Boleyn, presents a very good case to prove Anne’s and the five men’s innocence, and it was not Henry, but Thomas Cromwell, who wanted her downfall.
This is from her book:
The May Day of 1536, King Henry V111 was marking this occasion by having a great tournament, which was held in the tiltyard of Greenwich Palace. Besides Henry was his wife and Queen of three years Anne Boleyn.
Halfway through the jousts, Henry was passed a message, and suddenly to everyone astonishment, especially the Queen, the King departed to Westminster, having only six persons with him, leaving Anne alone at the tournament. She had reasons to suspect that something ominous had happened, and it concerned herself.
Anne Boleyn, Queen of England, should have been in an invincible position, yet she was painfully aware she had failed Henry in the most important thing that mattered.
Little did she know, that when the King walked out of the Royal stand on that May Day it would be the last time she would set eyes on him again.
Around three weeks later, five men were to be arrested and executed for committing treason with the Queen, George Boleyn, Lord Rochford, Sir Henry Norris, Sir Francis Weston, Sir William Bretreton, and Mark Smeaton. By the 18th May, all these men, along with Anne Boleyn where dead, all protesting their innocence expect the musician Mark Smeaton. Even for the times, this case was very flimsy evidence.


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Old January 12th, 2010, 08:57 PM   #3

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I'd say Innocent, largely since Henry seemed to have sort of lost the plot by this point.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 09:12 PM   #4

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I say innocent. I believe the "evidence" presented against her and the men involved was both fictional and coerced. Henry VIII had moved on in his love interest and needed a way to dispose himself of yet another wife. Had he done to her what he did to Catherine of Aragon, people may have become overly suspicious that the King was just fickle. Creating these acts of adultery and treason afforded him several luxuries. He looks like a victim in the eyes of his people, and he rids himself of yet another "barren" wife in favor of another model.

There is something to be said for a great public relations man, and Cromwell was undoubtedly one of the best in history.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 09:32 PM   #5

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She wasnt innocent. She played the game and lost.
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Am I the only one that is going to vote guilty? COWARDS!
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She wasnt innocent. She played the game and lost.

I missed this Bismarck, you are no coward
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Old January 12th, 2010, 11:23 PM   #8

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I think she was a victim of the times, of her family ambitions, of the king's desires and selfishness... She was guilty of wanting to be queen, perhaps. Guilty of doing what was expected of her, what she was conditioned to do by her upbringing and her family. I don't think she had very much of a choince, although in some small way, undoubtedly.

But she was obviously innocent of the crimes of which she was accused in order to free the throne.

It was a game dangerously played by many people, herself not even at the head of them. It was too much to expect that after the door was open, and her with but a daughter and a stillborn son, she would not be thrown through it, too.

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Ms Boleyn was found guilty and executed explicitly for adultery, incest (with his brother !!!) and high treason.

Given the obvious political motivation, the absolutely farfetched nature of the charges, the cynical autocratic nature of the King and that there seems to be essentially no hard evidence, Ms. Boleyn must be still considered innocent until proven otherwise.

She was killed by her husband; period.
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Old January 13th, 2010, 12:19 PM   #10

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Am I the only one that is going to vote guilty? COWARDS!
What are your reasons for guilty as charged? Present your case good sirs
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