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Old May 16th, 2016, 10:42 PM   #21

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I have a maternal line that came from Thueringen in the mid 1800s. But I know almost nothing of their earlier history. The mother died there before the father took his children to America. The mother's last name was Oppermann. The father's last name was Fensterer. They usually are shown to come from the Artern area. But a few sources give Schwartzberg(-burg) for the father.

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Schwarzburg and Artern are not that far away from each other. Artern is within the kyffhäuser county. I have ancestors from that county, too and from other regions, e.g. the Eichsfeld. One of my ancestors came around 1700 to my village. Several of his family members emigrated to the USA, to North Carolina, then Georgia and Alabama during the 18th century.
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This is a topographic map:

https://www.google.de/maps/place/998...917783!5m1!1e4

you think that can help?
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This is a topographic map:

https://www.google.de/maps/place/998...917783!5m1!1e4

you think that can help?
well, usually one can find archaeological sites on it like such graves. maybe not on google maps.
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well, usually one can find archaeological sites on it like such graves. maybe not on google maps.
I loked it up There are several graves at the Berlach forest which is part of the Krahnberg. But none are mentioned on the Krahnberg itself. Thats strange because the Krahnberg is the highest part
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I loked it up There are several graves at the Berlach forest which is part of the Krahnberg. But none are mentioned on the Krahnberg itself. Thats strange because the Krahnberg is the highest part
Ours aren't on the highest location, too.
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Ours aren't on the highest location, too.
do they know why there are build where they are build?
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I did my tour today. It was really nice and i actually found out 3 things.

On the hills around us are very much healing plants like Salbei:

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You also have an overview over the entire valley and its a great strategic spot:

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What catched my attention was a very isolated small "hump" right near the forest area. What do you think? Could this be something like an tomb?

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I also learned its maybe not the smartest idea to go that early in morning through forest and fields. Ruined my trousers and shoes

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Old May 30th, 2016, 04:47 PM   #29
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A thing about regions named after germanic tribes. Many of these regions were named by Charlemagne after the tribe that happened to inhabit the region when he was reforming the taxcode. The germanic tribes were pretty mobile and to them it was natural to identify themselves with their tribe rather than with the land.

I heard a podcast that compared this thing as the Chalk outlines (as in after a murder) of Charlemagne, cause the tribes didnt really reemerge after this. Anyway, just something i heard, not sure if there is merit too it.

Oh, another thing about the names of germanic tribes. Most of them were tribal coalitions. Like the Allemani (=all men), Saxons and Goths. An especially interesting name is the Marcomani. Meaning the bordermen. This might be an early marketing ploy to attract more men into the coalition. Because back when rome was still around all the tribes wanted to be on the border of the roman empire. To control the lucurative trade and to get subsidies from the empire. The competition was fierce and hence the tribes had to make coalitions to be strong enough to capture a spot on the border. So naming your coalition bordermen, well, i suspect an early marketing genious here

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