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Old May 19th, 2016, 02:16 PM   #1
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Italian Wars of 1521-1526


Hey everyone! So, I am writing a historical fiction novel that takes place in Siena, Italy. It starts in 1523 and spans several years (I have actually been changing around the dates a lot, so I could potentially move it around to anywhere between 1515 and 1530s depending on research/what works best for the storyline historically). I haven't been able to find that much good information about the political and military field of that time, and was wondering if anyone knew of good books or sources that could give me some info about the 1520s and the war at that point?
My book involves a legion of Elites (basically trained assassins and spies working for the Italian army), and I am needing to come up with specialized missions for them (for spying as well as assassinations and other such things) that actually could have happened back then. Any ideas, or at least suggestions for locations/people involved?? Also ideas for what a information a French spy working for King Francis I would be trying to get.
ANY information welcome, since I have only really been able to read what I've found online, which isn't much at all!! seems most articles basically skip over 1523 and 1524 except for the major battles.
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Webster Tarpley is brilliant, though he alternates between brilliance and fanatical crackpottery, keep in mind that he's usually fair, but never balanced.

The Role of the Venetian Oligarchy in Reformation, Counter-reformation, Enlightenment, and the Thirty Years? War « TARPLEY.net

It covers your period, the period after it and the motives and actions of the chief intelligence service of the time (Venice). It's the best quick treatment on this time period you'll find anywhere.
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My book involves a legion of Elites (basically trained assassins and spies working for the Italian army),
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When you say "Italian Army"... what army do you mean?
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When you say "Italian Army"... what army do you mean?
Yes I think that needs to clarified! Since it didn't exist for another 300+ years.
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There is Oman's Art of War in the Sixteenth Century.
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Old May 20th, 2016, 10:43 AM   #6

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Francesco Guicciardini's History of Italy:

Vol 8 (1522-1526)
Vol 10 (1528-1532)

I can't find Volume 9.

As M.E.T.H.O.D. and Pikeshot1600 will tell you, Michael Mallet's (and a new one co-authored by Christine Shaw) books are excellent:

The Italian Wars 1494-1559
The Military Organisation of a Renaissance-State

Sounds exciting, good luck finding your ideas. There should be plenty of intrigue just in the Diary of Marino Sanudo, if you can score a translation (or maybe you read Italian?).
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Also see our forum Renaissance book list:

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When you say "Italian Army"... what army do you mean?
That is partly what I am trying to figure out. There is little to no information I can find on who Siena was fighting for at that part in the war. I know they were against France, so I am assuming they were fighting with the Papal States, but I haven't been able to find solid clarification for or against that statement. Since they were a Republic, I am not sure who they would have allied with.
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Siena, Italy...anywhere between 1515 and 1530s...political and military field of that time, and was wondering if anyone knew of good books or sources that could give me some info about the 1520s and the war[s] at that point?
After reading your OP a little more carefully, I can only suggest the following research direction (and a few good books):

Siena: Constructing the Renaissance City (Fabrizio Nevola, 1997)
Art as Politics in Late Medieval Siena (ed. Timothy B. Smith, 2012)
The Italian City-Republics (Daniel Waley, 1989)
Power & Imagination: City-States in Renaissance Italy (Lauro Martines)


Also, perhaps look for material on the house of Petrucci, and the career of Pope Clement VI (Giulio de Medici), and the relations between the people of Siena and the pope after they ousted the Petrucci family from power. Also, look for material on the Battle of Camollia (1526) and the subsequent intervention by Charles V.

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One feature of Siena's political life at this period has always provoked comment. This was the system of monti or ordini whose very existence seemed to institutionalize civic strife. Each member of the ruling élite of Siena was a member of one of the city's 5 "monti", and each "monte" competed with the others for a monopoly of power in Siena. Attempts were made to devise some form of power-sharing by which the monti could be brought to cooperate together, and these efforts were not always unsuccessful. Indeed, the periods of internal peace in Siena were ones when such coalitions worked well. This is the light in which we should see the period 1458-63, the pontificate of Pius II, when Siena effectively became a papal dependency. In 1487 an exiled aristocrat, Pandolfo Petrucci, seized power and ruled with brutal tyranny through a period of French and Spanish invasions until his death in 1512. His regime was continued by his family until 1524. This so-called "signoria of the Petrucci" can best be understood as the most successful power-sharing exercise of the period, in which the Petrucci acted as peculiarly effective chairmen of the various coalitions by which Siena was governed. In the early 16th century, as the economic decline of Siena accelerated, and the position of her ruling élite weakened in consequence, the successful creation of such coalitions became difficult. Siena was constantly torn by party strife and civic turmoil and this turbulence created a kind of political vacuum in the centre of Italy from which the French hoped to profit. Charles V was forced to respond to this French threat by taking an interest in the city, and in in the 2nd quarter of the century Spanish influence in Siena became increasingly obvious. After 1530 a garrison of Spanish troops looked as if it would guarantee the city's loyalty, but to make certain Charles V decreed that a fortress should be built in Siena. This action forced the Sienese into open rebellion in 1552, and the Spanish were driven from the city.

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