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Old November 14th, 2016, 04:45 PM   #1

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Was Stalin the Greatest Leader of the 20th Century?


He lead a massive empire, helped defeat the axis and spread his influence after the war. Pretty effective ruler.
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Old November 14th, 2016, 05:52 PM   #2

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He also killed millions of his own people, caused a famine in Ukraine that killed a few more millions.

he purged his officer staff that killed hundreds of talented individuals.

Regarding world war two the only real reason the USSR prevailed was the industrial backing of the USA.
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Old November 14th, 2016, 06:09 PM   #3

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He lead a massive empire, helped defeat the axis and spread his influence after the war. Pretty effective ruler.
And his people heaved a collective (pun intended) sigh of relief when he died.
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Old November 14th, 2016, 06:31 PM   #4

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Influential perhaps, but greatest (at least in a positive sense) I would venture to say no. His record with his own people (and others too, lets not forget before during and after the second world war his fiasco in eastern Europe*) was appalling, if anything winning the war (mainly due to endless cannon fodder being available to him) is what has saved him from being considered the biggest criminal of the century. He was also arguably the most callous of all the 'great' leaders of the century which is an amazing feat given the amount of killing that went on. This is also the same man who felt it necessary to give orders that red army troops who retreated were to be shot, who made use of penal battalions and mass deportations to Siberia directed at several 'troublesome' ethnic groups. Oh, and he basically straight up murdered anyone who got in his way, which was unfortunate because he was definitely paranoid at times.

*The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact deserves its own special space in this analysis, as it really changes the light in which one can view the eastern front in the second world war and this view of the soviet red army as liberators and victors against evil (not that they didn't suffer greatly during the war).
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Old November 14th, 2016, 09:55 PM   #5

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"I have always felt that a politician is to be judged by the animosities he excites among his opponents." - Churchill

Stalin causes the greatest degree of hysteria of opponents .
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He also killed millions of his own people, caused a famine in Ukraine that killed a few more millions.
These are not important all. Pff, just some millions and who care about Ukraine.
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Old November 14th, 2016, 10:03 PM   #7

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He was just a dictator whose nation was part of the victors of WW2.
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These are not important all. Pff, just some millions and who care about Ukraine.
Ukrainians i would presume
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My opinion about Stalin is irrelevant /i am fan of effective part/, because neither i nor any of my kin were soviet citizens. Though I have certain knowledge and can talk about his influence upon situation in my country after the WWII. Ok, not entirely irrelevant, but the opinion of ex-soviet citizens matter the most. For example I know a lot about Pinochet, the pro's and con' s of his rule, but i will never ever dare to talk to chilean about him, because my knowledge comes from books and articles, not from first hand experience. So I am with General here, his opinion weighs the most, because of all above.
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The greatest leader of the 20th century was Mustafa Kemal ATATURK.
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