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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:18 PM   #241
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Nope, i say the country name Mad'arsko
Well of course, how should we name national Hungarian state if we call Hungarians "Maďari"?

But lets get back to the topic.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:25 PM   #242
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=Mosquito;1286054]its reneissance, not medieval times
as I said in my post it missed Mid Ages (by about 50 years or so) but it is not possible that the name of neighbouring country will change in this period.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:27 PM   #243
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as I said in my post it missed Mid Ages (by about 50 years or so) but it is not possible that the name of neighbouring country will change in this period.
According to official chronology I know, Renaissance is part of Late Middle Ages.
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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:40 PM   #244
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Both for Wladislaus and Louis the full titles used in Hungary were

Dei gratia, Hungariae, Bohemiae, Dalmatiae, Croatiae, Sclavoniae, Ramae, Serviae, Gallitiae, Lodomeriae, Comaniae, Bulgariaeque rex, nec non Silesiae, et Lucemburgensis dux, marchioque Moraviae, et Lusatiae, etc.

For Vladislaus I both saw Uladislaus and Wladislaus as alternative spellings in Latin for his name, Louis was Ludovicus.

In short form both kings used dei gratia rex Hungariae et Bohemiae etc.

These are from decrees and other diplomas, charters issued in Hungary. I don't know how they used them in documents issued in Bohemia, but in those from Hungary the list of titles started with Hungariae
Nobody question the use of term Bohemia in latin language. That is a latin name and this is it. The problem is that same of our colleagues refuse the right for natives to call their country by native name. I have spoken before about Thailand (used to be Siam) Myanmar (use to be Burma) Mumbai (use to be Bombay). Now we called them according to their native names.
But same nationalist refuse to give that rights to Czech people, dispate fact that this Kingdom was established by Czech Premislide dynasty a country inhabited predominantly by Czech.

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Old December 13th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #245
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İ am from Turkey and i want to go czech republic for university. i will make credit transfer. How will i be welcomed there? Will czech people be hostile towards me? i come from a modern and open minded background (family) and also i am atheizt . Sorry for off topic ( i am 22 btw)
I actually think that you could have a problem there. The Czech beer is so good that you have to be cereful to not become addictet to it.
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According to official chronology I know, Renaissance is part of Late Middle Ages.
That is debatable. I remember that the fixed dividing date (if such could be established) was the date of discovery of America in 1492.Of course such a date is only for reference. It was a long process spanning probably for more than 100 years.
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That is debatable. I remember that the fixed dividing date (if such could be established) was the date of discovery of America in 1492.Of course such a date is only for reference. It was a long process spanning probably for more than 100 years.
In the culture, politics, religion it was completelly different epoch and completelly different way of thinking in Europe
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In the culture, politics, religion it was completelly different epoch and completelly different way of thinking in Europe
Yes, but Middle Age could not be artificially ended by fixed date. Date of 1492 is used only for same kind of reference.
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Yes, but Middle Age could not be artificially ended by fixed date. Date of 1492 is used only for same kind of reference.
as well as the fall of Constantinopole in 1453 but on the military field I would say the hussite wars marked end of medieval times
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The only real consensus I see on the dating of the Renaissance is the 1500s. Unless of course you're referring to the 12th century Renaissance.
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